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Nice one Zedd are you a Sikh aswel ? , your showing the traits of those who are backwards and stuck in their disgusting paindu ways of doing things and seeing the world. The papers in the UK tell the same story again and agian of these scum.


SIKH WOMAN'S CRUSADE AFTER HER OWN LIFE OF TORMENT

THE death threats come through Jasvinder Sanghera's letter box two or three times a week. On a bad day, the vicious notes are accompanied by excrement smeared on her windows.

And when she's driving, Jasvinder is constantly on her guard in case she is being followed by the men intent on killing her.

Most women in such a terrifying situation would turn to their families for help and support. But for this courageous Sikh woman that is not an option - her family despise her as much as the people who want to kill her.

This has been Jasvinder's life since she was 16, when she ran away to escape an arranged marriage to a man she had seen only in a photo.

In her family's eyes, the shame she had caused them is unforgivable, while within the wider Asian community she has become a pariah for speaking out against forced marriage.

The tradition, still common today, is inflicted upon British-born Sikh, Muslim and Hindu girls as young as nine who are sent abroad to marry men they have never met. Some are used as domestic slaves, beaten, raped and even murdered in so-called "honour" killings.

By helping young women to resist these illegal unions, or flee their abusive relationships, Jasvinder, now a 42-year-old charity worker, has been accused of encouraging divorce, destroying families and shaming the the Asian community.

But she says: "I will fight until I die to free women from forced marriages.

"It's tough, but I have to do this in the knowledge that these women might have to live in hiding, under witness protection schemes and most likely be disowned by their families.

"Forced marriages aren't just happening in small villages in India or Pakistan. They are happening under our noses across the UK, even in the families of highly-educated barristers, doctors, and dentists."

Growing up in a small Derby terrace as part of a Sikh family of seven girls and one boy, Jasvinder was seven when she first dared to question why she and her sisters were expected to be subservient while her only brother was treated like a king.

When she was 14, her parents, who had left India's Punjab in the 1950s, showed her a picture of her future husband.

"I didn't want to get married so young," she says. "I liked school, wanted to go to college, make my own choices.

"When I was growing up I saw my older sisters taken out of school and go through with arranged marriages. We younger girls were often bundled into the car to visit them when they were having marriage problems.

"My parents would give them 50 reasons to stay and make the marriage work - even though my sisters had bruises all over them.

"I knew I couldn't do what they did. When my parents locked me in my room for two days, they merely strengthened my resolve."

At 16 Jasvinder ran away from home with a Sikh boy, and two months later, after living in dank bed and breakfast accommodation, she rang home.

She had expected her mum to sound relieved that she was safe ... but she was wrong.

"She screamed abuse at me. She told me, 'In our eyes you are dead' before slamming down the phone," says Jasvinder. "She believed that by spurning the man they had chosen for me I had defiled the family name. Mum insisted I was no better than a prostitute and said I would never be part of my family again. And she has lived up to her word."

Any notions that mother and daughter would be reunited when Jasvinder, who had subsequently married, gave birth to her first child were quickly dismissed.

"She walked into the labour ward, peered briefly at my daughter and turned on her heels and left," she says.

Back in Derby, her sisters would cross the street to avoid her. People she once regarded as friends encouraged her to commit suicide because they deemed her tainted life as worthless.

But Jasvinder never doubted her decision. As she observed the wretched lives of women who had accepted arranged marriages, and saw intelligent women sacrifice careers to spend their days skivvying for their husbands, she knew she was right.

But her own strength couldn't save the life of her beloved older sister Robina, who doused herself in paraffin and set herself alight to escape her violent husband.

"She suffered 90 per cent burns," says Jasvinder. "The pain is unimaginable yet even in her dire agony, and with only minutes to live, she asked paramedics to cover her face when they lifted her into the ambulance. Even then, she couldn't bear to bring shame on her family. Her death could so easily have been avoided. She had begged for help but was sent back time and time again. Those people sent her to her death."

After the shock of Robina's death, her parents gradually allowed Jasvinder back into their lives - although her mother took great pains to make sure neighbours and relatives had no idea their "shamed" daughter had been allowed home.

When her parents died, Jasvinder was kept away from their bodies in case she contaminated them.

Now twice divorced, she vows to let her three children marry whoever they wish. "As long as their partners genuinely love them, I'll be happy," she says. "Only love keeps us happy and secure." Jasvinder knows that her own family will never forgive her. "None of my sisters, my brother or nieces or nephews will speak to me. I've come to accept it - that way it doesn't hurt so much when I hear about a wedding or party I haven't been invited to.

"But I've learned to deal with their rejection now. I know, when I die, none of my family will attend my funeral."

Now Jasvinder is campaigning to make forced marriage illegal in the UK. In her work with the Karma Nirvana charity, which she cofounded, Jasvinder sees an average of seven women a week, all desperate to avoid a forced marriage or to leave their husbands.

"It's tragic," she says. "One woman's husband actually wanted to divorce her because a male nurse had given her an internal examination before she gave birth.

"Another drank bleach to escape being regularly raped by her husband. And that's just in Derby. No figures exist to show the extent of the problem across the country.

"We are dealing with a community that feels honour killings are justified if a woman is even suspected of bringing shame on to her family.

"I've learned lessons and I need to share them. There are mountains to climb, but I won't stop climbing."

Shame, by Jasvinder Sanghera, is published by Hodder & Staughton, at £12.99

LIVES OF MISERY

1,250 women have contacted the Home Office's Forced Marriage Unit since 2000. The figures are said by local charities to be a gross underestimate. 400 were directly related to forced marriage cases.

75 percent were British subjects taken out of the UK to marry. 30 per cent were minors.

IN a poll of 500 Asians, one in ten believed honour killings were justified. There are an estimated 5,000 honour killings a year worldwide.
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Nice one Zedd are you a Sikh aswel ? , your showing the traits of those who are backwards and stuck in their disgusting paindu ways of doing things and seeing the world. The papers in the UK tell the same story again and agian of these scum.


SIKH WOMAN'S CRUSADE AFTER HER OWN LIFE OF TORMENT

THE death threats come through Jasvinder Sanghera's letter box two or three times a week. On a bad day, the vicious notes are accompanied by excrement smeared on her windows.

And when she's driving, Jasvinder is constantly on her guard in case she is being followed by the men intent on killing her.

Most women in such a terrifying situation would turn to their families for help and support. But for this courageous Sikh woman that is not an option - her family despise her as much as the people who want to kill her.

This has been Jasvinder's life since she was 16, when she ran away to escape an arranged marriage to a man she had seen only in a photo.

In her family's eyes, the shame she had caused them is unforgivable, while within the wider Asian community she has become a pariah for speaking out against forced marriage.

The tradition, still common today, is inflicted upon British-born Sikh, Muslim and Hindu girls as young as nine who are sent abroad to marry men they have never met. Some are used as domestic slaves, beaten, raped and even murdered in so-called "honour" killings.

By helping young women to resist these illegal unions, or flee their abusive relationships, Jasvinder, now a 42-year-old charity worker, has been accused of encouraging divorce, destroying families and shaming the the Asian community.

But she says: "I will fight until I die to free women from forced marriages.

"It's tough, but I have to do this in the knowledge that these women might have to live in hiding, under witness protection schemes and most likely be disowned by their families.

"Forced marriages aren't just happening in small villages in India or Pakistan. They are happening under our noses across the UK, even in the families of highly-educated barristers, doctors, and dentists."

Growing up in a small Derby terrace as part of a Sikh family of seven girls and one boy, Jasvinder was seven when she first dared to question why she and her sisters were expected to be subservient while her only brother was treated like a king.

When she was 14, her parents, who had left India's Punjab in the 1950s, showed her a picture of her future husband.

"I didn't want to get married so young," she says. "I liked school, wanted to go to college, make my own choices.

"When I was growing up I saw my older sisters taken out of school and go through with arranged marriages. We younger girls were often bundled into the car to visit them when they were having marriage problems.

"My parents would give them 50 reasons to stay and make the marriage work - even though my sisters had bruises all over them.

"I knew I couldn't do what they did. When my parents locked me in my room for two days, they merely strengthened my resolve."

At 16 Jasvinder ran away from home with a Sikh boy, and two months later, after living in dank bed and breakfast accommodation, she rang home.

She had expected her mum to sound relieved that she was safe ... but she was wrong.

"She screamed abuse at me. She told me, 'In our eyes you are dead' before slamming down the phone," says Jasvinder. "She believed that by spurning the man they had chosen for me I had defiled the family name. Mum insisted I was no better than a prostitute and said I would never be part of my family again. And she has lived up to her word."

Any notions that mother and daughter would be reunited when Jasvinder, who had subsequently married, gave birth to her first child were quickly dismissed.

"She walked into the labour ward, peered briefly at my daughter and turned on her heels and left," she says.

Back in Derby, her sisters would cross the street to avoid her. People she once regarded as friends encouraged her to commit suicide because they deemed her tainted life as worthless.

But Jasvinder never doubted her decision. As she observed the wretched lives of women who had accepted arranged marriages, and saw intelligent women sacrifice careers to spend their days skivvying for their husbands, she knew she was right.

But her own strength couldn't save the life of her beloved older sister Robina, who doused herself in paraffin and set herself alight to escape her violent husband.

"She suffered 90 per cent burns," says Jasvinder. "The pain is unimaginable yet even in her dire agony, and with only minutes to live, she asked paramedics to cover her face when they lifted her into the ambulance. Even then, she couldn't bear to bring shame on her family. Her death could so easily have been avoided. She had begged for help but was sent back time and time again. Those people sent her to her death."

After the shock of Robina's death, her parents gradually allowed Jasvinder back into their lives - although her mother took great pains to make sure neighbours and relatives had no idea their "shamed" daughter had been allowed home.

When her parents died, Jasvinder was kept away from their bodies in case she contaminated them.

Now twice divorced, she vows to let her three children marry whoever they wish. "As long as their partners genuinely love them, I'll be happy," she says. "Only love keeps us happy and secure." Jasvinder knows that her own family will never forgive her. "None of my sisters, my brother or nieces or nephews will speak to me. I've come to accept it - that way it doesn't hurt so much when I hear about a wedding or party I haven't been invited to.

"But I've learned to deal with their rejection now. I know, when I die, none of my family will attend my funeral."

Now Jasvinder is campaigning to make forced marriage illegal in the UK. In her work with the Karma Nirvana charity, which she cofounded, Jasvinder sees an average of seven women a week, all desperate to avoid a forced marriage or to leave their husbands.

"It's tragic," she says. "One woman's husband actually wanted to divorce her because a male nurse had given her an internal examination before she gave birth.

"Another drank bleach to escape being regularly raped by her husband. And that's just in Derby. No figures exist to show the extent of the problem across the country.

"We are dealing with a community that feels honour killings are justified if a woman is even suspected of bringing shame on to her family.

"I've learned lessons and I need to share them. There are mountains to climb, but I won't stop climbing."

Shame, by Jasvinder Sanghera, is published by Hodder & Staughton, at £12.99

LIVES OF MISERY

1,250 women have contacted the Home Office's Forced Marriage Unit since 2000. The figures are said by local charities to be a gross underestimate. 400 were directly related to forced marriage cases.

75 percent were British subjects taken out of the UK to marry. 30 per cent were minors.

IN a poll of 500 Asians, one in ten believed honour killings were justified. There are an estimated 5,000 honour killings a year worldwide.


heh, heh......delighted to see that the ignorant infidels are on a learning curve! heh, heh........
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Sounds like she's a pain in the Hindi.

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heh, heh......delighted to see that the ignorant infidels are on a learning curve! heh, heh........
and the ones like YOU are on a downward spiral, (learning-curve wise, and continually displaying additional evidence of it here. Heh, heh.

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heh, heh...."Birds of feather flock together!" heh, heh.....
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heh, heh...."Birds of feather flock together!" heh, heh.....
Hey! Watch who you're talking about!! We don't flock w/ anyone!!!

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I must say, Sikh bengali women are lookers.
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