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For the Democrats, the gift that keeps on giving.

Come on Larry, hang in there!

Sen. Craig may not resign, spokesman says
Official says decision hinges on outcomes of Minn. legal case, ethics probe

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BOISE, Idaho - Sen. Larry Craig is reconsidering his decision to resign after his arrest in a Minnesota airport sex sting and may still fight for his Senate seat, his spokesman said Tuesday evening.

"It's not such a foregone conclusion anymore, that the only thing he could do was resign," said Sidney Smith, Craig's spokesman in Idaho's capital.

"We're still preparing as if Sen. Craig will resign Sept. 30, but the outcome of the legal case in Minnesota and the ethics investigation will have an impact on whether we're able to stay in the fight — and stay in the Senate."

Craig, a Republican who has represented Idaho in Congress for 27 years, announced Saturday that he intends to resign from the Senate on Sept. 30. But since then, he's hired a prominent lawyer to investigate the possibility of reversing his plea, his spokesman said.

Craig was a no-show Tuesday as Congress reconvened after a summer break and it wasn't clear whether he'll return at all since deciding to resign over his guilty plea in a sex sting this summer at the Minneapolis airport.

Another spokesman, Dan Whiting in Washington, said Tuesday that Craig was expected to spend the week in Idaho as the Senate votes on spending bills for veterans and other programs. Whiting did not rule out Craig's returning to Washington before the end of the month.

A telephone call Craig received last week from Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., urging him to consider fighting for his seat is affecting Craig's decision to reconsider his resignation, Smith said.

"It was a little more cut and dried a few days ago," Smith said. "There weren't many options. He was basically going to have to step aside. Now, there's a little more to it."

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On Tuesday, Specter, senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, suggested Craig's GOP colleagues who pressured him last week to resign should re-examine the facts surrounding his arrest June 11.

"The more people take a look at the situation, there may well be second thoughts," said Specter, a former prosecutor. If Craig had not pleaded guilty in August to a reduced charge and instead demanded a trial, "I believe he would have been exonerated," Specter said.

Craig gave up his senior positions on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee and the Appropriations veterans subcommittee last week, at the request of Senate Republican leaders. The Senate began debating the veterans spending bill Tuesday.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Good. Let the fucker stay right in, as a HUGE constant living reminder of the blatant, flagrant hiprocrisy, stench, and sanctimonious fools and corporate greedheads that are Republicans.

It will make the Democrat house cleaning all the more easy, and thorough.

He is the perfect representation of what Republicans stand for: "Fuck you America" and "We suck corporate dick"

Keep him right on center stage, in full view. Fine.

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Maybe he can get together with Barney Frank (D - MA), they would make a lovely couple...

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When did Frank become a rank hypocrite? See, this is the difference between you and me - for you it is the fact he is gay. For me, it is the fact he is a rank imposter, a poser and a liar. In other words, he is a Republican.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Good. Let the fucker stay right in, as a HUGE constant living reminder of the blatant, flagrant hiprocrisy, stench, and sanctimonious fools and corporate greedheads that are Republicans.

It will make the Democrat house cleaning all the more easy, and thorough.

He is the perfect representation of what Republicans stand for: "Fuck you America" and "We suck corporate dick"

Keep him right on center stage, in full view. Fine.
Un-Closeted Gay Republican Larry Craig now considering un-resigning from the Senate, the way he plans to un-plead guilty to trying to suck off a cop in an airport bathroom. You are right, a perfect representation.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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When did Frank become a rank hypocrite? See, this is the difference between you and me - for you it is the fact he is gay. For me, it is the fact he is a rank imposter, a poser and a liar. In other words, he is a Republican.
No, actually it's the fact that his live in "partner" was running an "escort" service out of Frank's home, and Frank said he knew nothing about it..............
But of course you wouldn't remember that would you? Seems to me that would make him "a rank imposter, a poser and a liar. In other words, he is a Republican."
Oh, wait a minute he still calls himself a Democrat doesn't he?

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A few generations ago, the Democrats represented the conservative voice of the nation. Perhaps the righties can start wearing "D's" behind our names, change our voter registration cards, and run off the bleeding heart liberals and entitlement crowd, for whom there is no place in this modern world.
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It's a grand time.... Republicans eating Republicans.... does joy have no end?

Will: Now, Defining Decency Down
Statements of faux contrition are a Washington literary genre. Larry Craig's innovation was his apology 'for the cloud placed over Idaho.'
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Sept. 10, 2007 issue - Last week, a U.S. senator's 27-year congressional career crashed and burned and his life unraveled in public ignominy, and a presidential candidate announced his disgust in a way that did him no credit. The U.S. attorney general made a resignation statement containing a repulsive sentiment suffused with vanity. And in a weird addition to last week's jumbled sensibilities and sensitivities, the Public Broadcasting System announced that, because some station managers are afraid that the Federal Communications Commission's decency police might take umbrage and impose fines, two versions of Ken Burns's 14½-hour documentary "The War" will be distributed, in one of which four words of profanity will be removed. This is not because the words shockingly and wrongly suggest that soldiers in World War II sometimes used indelicate language (does no one remember what the F in the wartime acronym "snafu" stands for?), but because someone, somewhere, might be offended by that fact.

Good grief. Let's sift the rubble.

Statements of faux contrition are a Washington literary genre, usually featuring the foggy phrase "mistakes were made." Larry Craig's contribution to the art of obfuscation was his apology "for the cloud placed over Idaho." "Placed"? Who was the placer? It was, he implied, the Idaho newspaper that created the stress that caused him to plead guilty to lewd behavior.

Craig's unraveling involved a sadness almost unfathomable to anyone who has not felt it necessary to live, as he seems to have done for years, disguising one's nature. The fact that Craig deepened his misery with an absurd "explanation" that was, in its way, lewd increased the duty to feel compassion for him. But the presidential candidate he supported quickly pounced, issuing a statement devoid of human sympathy. Craig, said Mitt Romney, seizing yet another opportunity to stroke social conservatives, "reminds us of Mark Foley and Bill Clinton" and, "frankly, it's disgusting."

If Romney fails to translate his intelligence and accomplishments into the Republican nomination, one reason will be the suspicion that there is something synthetic and excessively calculating about every move in his increasingly embarrassing courtship of those who are called "values voters." If they can be courted that way, their values need a tuneup.

And speaking of the tone-deaf, Alberto Gonzales could not even leave high office without advertising his unfitness for it. As he habitually has done, he reminded the nation that he has "lived the American Dream," which he evidently thinks is epitomized by his success in attaching himself to a politician not known for demanding quality in assistants. Gonzales then demonstrated how uncomprehending he is of essential American values. He said: "Even my worst days as attorney general have been better than my father's best days."

Well. His father married and had eight children—nine wonderful days, days even better, one would have thought, than any of the days his son spent floundering at the Justice Department. Furthermore, Gonzales's father had the fulfillment of a lifetime spent providing for his family. But what is any of that, Gonzales implies, compared with the satisfaction of occupying, however unsatisfactorily, a high office? This implicit disparagement of his father's life of responsibility and self-sufficiency turns conservatism inside out. It is going to take conservatism a while to recuperate from becoming associated with such people.

In 1972, Supreme Court Justice William Brennan wanted to declare the death penalty unconstitutional as a violation of the Eighth Amendment's proscription of "cruel and unusual" punishments. But the Constitution's Framers clearly considered it constitutional. So Brennan simply asserted—against considerable evidence, such as public-opinion surveys and actions of state legislatures supporting capital punishment—that America's "evolving standards of decency" had rendered the death penalty unconstitutional. Brennan's reasoning was dubious, but standards of decency do evolve. Evolution is not, however, always elevating.

Last week, there was nationwide merriment at the expense of an 18-year-old participant in a South Carolina beauty pageant. Asked a question about why many Americans might lack elementary knowledge about the world, she got lost in syntactical tangles and spoke nonsense. Although there was not a shred of news value in it, Fox News and CNN played the tape of her mortification, and by last Friday YouTube's presentation of it had generated more than 10 million hits. The casual cruelty of publicizing her discomfort, and the widespread entertainment pleasure derived from it, is evidence that standards of decency are evolving in the wrong direction.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Sen. McConnell: Craig won't resign if case is overturned


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Embattled Idaho Sen. Larry Craig will not resign if he's able to get the disorderly conduct case against him dismissed in the next 25 days, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Wednesday.
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"He said that he is going to try to get the case in Minneapolis dismissed -- that if he is unable to have that disposed of, prior to September 30, it is his intention to resign from the Senate as he expressed last Saturday," McConnell told reporters.

"If he is able to get the case favorably disposed of in Minneapolis, it would be his intention to come back to the Senate to deal with the Ethics Committee case that he knows that he will have, and to try to finish his term," McConnell added.

Craig's attorney, Stanley Brand asked the ethics committee not to investigate because events were "wholly unrelated" to official duties, according to The Associated Press.

The Ethics Committee, however, said it will continue its investigation.

"S. Res. 338 gives the committee the authority to investigate members who engage in 'improper conduct which may reflect upon the Senate,' regardless of whether such conduct violates a specific statute, Senate rule, or regulation," the committee said in a statement, citing the Senate Ethics Manual.

"The committee has stated that the Senate 'may discipline a member for any misconduct, including conduct or activity which does not directly relate to official duties, when such conduct unfavorably reflects on the institution as a whole,'" the committee said. "Pending Senator Craig's resignation, the committee will continue to review this matter."
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In a follow up statement Wednesday, Craig said he intended to fight his case before the Ethics Committee "while I am a sitting senator."

Craig will be up for re-election in 2008.

Meanwhile, Republican Senate leaders were expected Wednesday to tell Craig he should follow through on his intended resignation after his arrest in an airport bathroom sex sting.

He pleaded guilty to the disorderly conduct charge to last month.

"He's fighting this. He is innocent, and he believes that there's a good chance that he eventually will have this charge overturned and that the Ethics Committee won't act against him," Craig's spokesman, Dan Whiting, told KTVB-TV in Boise.

In consultation with the Senate's GOP leadership, Craig agreed to leave his leadership posts on Senate committees while the Senate Ethics Committee investigates the incident.

Craig's backtracking upset the Republican leaders, a Republican leadership aide said, because they thought Craig's intended resignation put the controversy behind them.

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin said it was unlikely Craig could get his guilty plea overturned.

Toobin said Craig would have to show he was forced to plead guilty or he didn't understand English or was impaired. He noted Craig had six weeks between the incident and signing his plea.

"So that makes it hard for him to change his mind now," Toobin said.

GOP leadership aides said it would be extraordinary for Craig to get a plea overturned in the 25 days before his resignation would be effective.

"It takes longer than that to get a speeding ticket handled in court," one GOP leadership aide said.

Craig's hopes of staying in the Senate were buoyed by a call of support from Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pennsylvania, according to a tape of a voicemail Craig left. Hear Craig's phone call »

In the tape released by the Capitol Hill newspaper Roll Call, Craig leaves a voice mail for a man he addresses as "Billy." Roll Call said the phone call was made Saturday morning. Whiting confirmed Craig made the phone call but would not say who "Billy" was or whether it was Craig's attorney, Billy Martin.

In the tape, Craig tells "Billy" about a phone call from Specter and that after the conversation with the senator, he plans to put the word "intend" into his resignation statement. He also encourages "Billy" to make a "bold" statement in front of cameras. Video Watch why Craig chose his words carefully »

On Sunday, Specter said he would like to see Craig fight the allegations against him.

"On the evidence, Sen. Craig wouldn't be convicted of anything," Specter said on "Fox News Sunday."

"I'd like to see him fight the case, because I think he could be vindicated," Specter said.

On Wednesday, Specter would not elaborate.

"At least for the time being I've said all I intend to say about the situation with Sen. Craig. I made a comment last Sunday on Fox News. I think now the comments ought to come from Sen. Craig or his attorneys."

Craig was arrested in a restroom in June at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport on suspicion of making sexual advances to an undercover police officer in the next stall.

Craig denied the accusation and is heard doing so on an audiotape released by police.

But on August 8, he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct.

Since then, Craig has said he regrets pleading guilty and has hired legal counsel to try to get the guilty plea expunged.

A source familiar with Craig's legal proceedings said no paperwork has been filed to change his guilty plea.

White House Deputy Press Secretary Dana Perino said she does not believe the administration has changed its position that Craig's decision to resign was the right one for himself, his family and his constituents.

Idaho Gov. Butch Otter, who would name a replacement for Craig, met with the senator Wednesday morning for 30 minutes, Otter's office told CNN.
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Otter told Craig he would proceed as though the resignation will take place on September 30. Otter's office said the governor named four possible replacements -- including Lt. Gov Jim Risch, attorney and former Lt. Gov. David Leroy, and Idaho Attorney General Lawrence Wasden. Dane Watkins was the fourth name on the list.

But it was unclear if the governor meant Bonneville County Prosecuting Attorney Dane Watkins Jr. or his father, Dane Watkins Sr., who is a former state senator. E-mail to a friend E-mail to a friend

CNN's Dana Bash and Ted Barrett contributed to this report.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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