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We really need to bomb something soon. We have just one life to live. Let's get it over with.
heh, heh.....lets start with Washington DC! heh, heh........and work Westwards! heh, heh.........
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Why the f*ck does the U.S. give a flying crap whether or not Iran attacks Israel?

Isn't this Israel's problem? Really. Why do we care?

heh, heh.......afraid you don't have a choice! You HAVE to care! That is the small print in the US Constituition! heh, heh........
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Striking Iran in any capacity would just be a bad move. Unlike Iraq, Iran has the capacity to strike back. Iraq had been softened-up for more than a decade after being defeated in Gulf War I. The world economy had also adjusted to not having a significant amount of oil from Iraq due to the UN sanctions, so there wasn't as much to fear about an oil price spike. None of these conditions exist with Iran.

Iran has enough military capacity to wreak havoc with the Straits of Hormuz, even if the US applies overwhelming force through air strikes. Just a few sunken oil tankers would be enough to slow down or stop commercial shipping as tanker owners wont risk their assets, and insurance companies wont insure the ships. Iran is a major supplier of oil to world markets, even if none of that supply goes to the US. If that supply was to be disrupted, along with the supply from Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE, it would be an absolute catastrophe for both the US and world economies.

Like it or not, Iran will have to be negotiated with, for pretty much the same reasons that North Korea gets negotiations instead of an invasion.
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Exactly.
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Yeah you could be right all it will do is drive a wedge between the ME and the US and drive up the price of Oil & Gas. But........do you actually believe Bush or someone else will not? I have always said Bush will do this before he leaves office.........
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do you actually believe Bush or someone else will not? I have always said Bush will do this before he leaves office.........
I don't think he will, because if he destroys the US economy before leaving office he makes it impossible for a Republican to win the White House or take back Congress. Bush, or the people who he is beholden to for his position of power, won't allow that to happen. The last thing they want is a Democratic party with the ability to undo most of what they've done for the past 6 years.
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Striking Iran in any capacity would just be a bad move. Unlike Iraq, Iran has the capacity to strike back. Iraq had been softened-up for more than a decade after being defeated in Gulf War I. The world economy had also adjusted to not having a significant amount of oil from Iraq due to the UN sanctions, so there wasn't as much to fear about an oil price spike. None of these conditions exist with Iran.

Iran has enough military capacity to wreak havoc with the Straits of Hormuz, even if the US applies overwhelming force through air strikes. Just a few sunken oil tankers would be enough to slow down or stop commercial shipping as tanker owners wont risk their assets, and insurance companies wont insure the ships. Iran is a major supplier of oil to world markets, even if none of that supply goes to the US. If that supply was to be disrupted, along with the supply from Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE, it would be an absolute catastrophe for both the US and world economies.

Like it or not, Iran will have to be negotiated with, for pretty much the same reasons that North Korea gets negotiations instead of an invasion.
Taking out the regimes support structure, the Revolutionary Guards, but not the military, would be a possible move.

Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I don't think he will, because if he destroys the US economy before leaving office he makes it impossible for a Republican to win the White House or take back Congress. Bush, or the people who he is beholden to for his position of power, won't allow that to happen. The last thing they want is a Democratic party with the ability to undo most of what they've done for the past 6 years.
Good point
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The Iranian threat is being blown out of proportion.
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Way out of proportion. Iran has no ability to strike back at us, whatsoever. That said, it certainly does have a greater capacity to defend itself than did hapless Iraq. But those are two entirely distinct issues, a fact which the current administration and its fallacious WOT like to ignore.

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