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^ No, you vote your conscience -- that's all any individual can do.

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Astonishly, that leaves Ron Paul out there to contemplate.
^I don't understand what that means. The only things I find 'astonishing' about Ron Paul are his intellect, his candor, his honesty, and his grasp of how our federal government is supposed to function.

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The only things I find 'astonishing' about Ron Paul are his intellect, his candor, his honesty, and his grasp of how our federal government is supposed to function.

Who do you see as a viable vice presidential candidate?
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I would place my trust in Dr. Paul to make that choice. My second favorite GOP candidate at this point is Mike Huckabee. Although I disagree with Mr. Huckabee about a great many things, I do admire his candor and demeanor.

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^ No, you vote your conscience -- that's all any individual can do.


^I don't understand what that means. The only things I find 'astonishing' about Ron Paul are his intellect, his candor, his honesty, and his grasp of how our federal government is supposed to function.

What I am saying is simply, that ALL the other candidates from both parties are seeming more and more buffoonish and intolerable all the
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and ASTONISHLY, that leaves NO one; except the principled and honorable Ron Paul. Not that I agree with him on everything, to be sure....

There seems to be some kind of a campaign or conspiracy or something to suppress his candidacy - all the big money gets spent on the mainstreamers.

Ron Paul is not credible until his poll numbers are high, and they will never be until people hears what he has to say, and without media exposure, participarion in all the debates and access to the public, he will not get there

Catch 22

Not worth wasting a vote for him if the result, by so doing, throws the election to some else who is real, real bad.

Like with Nader. Or Ross Perot, George Wallace or others "outside the box"

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What I am saying is simply, that ALL the other candidates from both parties are seeming more and more buffoonish and intolerable all the
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and ASTONISHLY, that leaves NO one; except the principled and honorable Ron Paul. Not that I agree with him on everything, to be sure....

There seems to be some kind of a campaign or conspiracy or something to suppress his candidacy - all the big money gets spent on the mainstreamers.

Ron Paul is not credible until his poll numbers are high, and they will never be until people hears what he has to say, and without media exposure, participarion in all the debates and access to the public, he will not get there

Catch 22

Not worth wasting a vote for him if the result, by so doing, throws the election to some else who is real, real bad.

Like with Nader. Or Ross Perot, George Wallace or others "outside the box"

But perhaps, just perhaps, there are just enough dissatisfied voters, not just citizens, but voters, to actually approach that tipping point. We may not be as far away as you think.

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I am on the fence about everyone. I would be a supporter of Ron Paul if his party didn't treat him like a leper. I would be a supporter of Al Gore if he was running. But the mainstream candidates like Rudi, Mitt, Hillary and Obama just don't do anything for me. I like Edwards more than any of them.

I will just sit and watch what develops over the next year or so and deal with the situation at that time. Jim
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I am on the fence about everyone. I would be a supporter of Ron Paul if his party didn't treat him like a leper. I would be a supporter of Al Gore if he was running. But the mainstream candidates like Rudi, Mitt, Hillary and Obama just don't do anything for me. I like Edwards more than any of them.

I will just sit and watch what develops over the next year or so and deal with the situation at that time. Jim
Personally, I see that as a point in his favor, all things considered.

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Personally, I see that as a point in his favor, all things considered.
I hear you, but it makes him essentially unelectable. This is a two party system and the other than two party participants never amount to much more than noise, or in the case of Nader, a spoiler. The result of Nader running is what we are living with today. That is an unsupportable consequence of being dissatisfied with the major party candidates. I find it peculiar that Republicans have so thoroughly distanced their party from the only really conservative candidate they have running.

If Biden were to take the nomination for the Dems I would be encouraged too. Jim
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