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post #11 of 42 (permalink) Old 08-23-2007, 01:29 AM
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Dental caries would be reduced if they would clean regularly with fluoride toothpaste along with implementing water fluoridation.
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Dental caries would be reduced if they would clean regularly with fluoride toothpaste along with implementing water fluoridation.

yes... very few people seem to realize that european countries do not follow the US practice of adding sodium hexafluorosilicate to the municipal water supply which makes a big difference in the slowing decay...

but...

there is a a larger overall problem and that is that dental work on the whole is priced exorbitantly high... far too high for the average british citizen to afford... furthermore the pricing issue is now affecting americans as well with their dental coverage falling far short. The issue really IMHO tends to be that the majority of dental procedures are simply priced too high relative to the associated costs (e.g. materials, labor, education).

Here is an example: this year i had 3 root canals done. the average price for the procedure is $650-$850 depending on the tooth and number of canals. the average duration for the procedure was between 1 and 1.5 hours. The worst case scenario puts the hourly rate at $430.00/hr.

Now when i provide engineering services for work such as building the specialized mercedes network interfaces, we bill out at $300/hr. So we bill $300/hr for custom one of a kind work starting often from scratch with no documentation... work that very few firms specialize in. Now compare that to the $430/hr price for a procedure that is well documented and understood and has been standard for over 40 years with literally thousands of dentists trained to do it.

Yet there is this disparity in pricing... honestly i cannot understand why these procedures cost so much.. i dont think gutta percha or temrex is that expensive and while i know dental tools *are* expensive i dont think they cost anywhere as much as the lab full of test equipment that i have had to purchase over the years to stay current.. perhaps we can get some input from the dental community on these issues....

As ive said in the US we are already feeling the crunch with most people having poor or no dental coverage at all but at least the average middle class person can afford the difference. in the UK its far far worse, particularly for citizens that must rely on the socialized health care. it is not uncommon to see waiting periods of a year for anything besides simple fillings.
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Dental caries would be reduced if they would clean regularly with fluoride toothpaste along with implementing water fluoridation.
10% of all the water supplies in the UK are fluoridized at the treatment works. But do you not consider that it is rather fascist to compulsorily add a poison to natural drinking water, irrespective of the claims made for the health of teeth.

btw most of the people wandering around places like Soho, London are not British. They are a mixture of tourists, and immigrants both legal and illegal...
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10% of all the water supplies in the UK are fluoridized at the treatment works. But do you not consider that it is rather fascist to compulsorily add a poison to natural drinking water, irrespective of the claims made for the health of teeth.

btw most of the people wandering around places like Soho, London are not British. They are a mixture of tourists, and immigrants both legal and illegal...

Keyhole, did you forget to whom you are referring?

Meanwhile, guage, you would do well to appreciate that not all things in this world are as simple and uncomplicated as your brain. Read up.
Here is a starter for you.

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"Since 1990, 54 US and Canadian cities have rejected hydroflouros ilic acid, but some 60% of the US remains fluoridated. In these areas there has been a dramatic increase in osteosarcoma (bone cancer) in young males aged between 9-19. A National Cancer Institute Surveillance Epidemiology and End Results Program recorded an increase of 79% of osteosarcomas in young men living in fluoridated areas of Iowa and Seattle. But in the unfluoridated areas the incidence of bone cancer decreased by 4%.
In New Jersey , rates of osteosarcoma were three to seven times higher among males aged between 10-19 than in unfluoridated regions"
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The Ugly American is alive and well,

"For some reason, the people I meet in my country are not the same as the ones I knew in the United States. A mysterious change seems to come over Americans when they go to a foreign land. They isolate themselves socially. They live pretentiously. They're loud and ostentatious. Perhaps they're frightened and defensive, or maybe they're not properly trained and make mistakes out of ignorance."

Unfortunately, modernity affords them the ability to traverse the planet unrestrained, without actually pulling their obscene arses off the divan.

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Equally a stereotype, akin to calling Japanese tourists a bunch of dark suit wearing camera fumblers.

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10% of all the water supplies in the UK are fluoridized at the treatment works. But do you not consider that it is rather fascist to compulsorily add a poison to natural drinking water, irrespective of the claims made for the health of teeth.

btw most of the people wandering around places like Soho, London are not British. They are a mixture of tourists, and immigrants both legal and illegal...
Having GREEN TEETH is not good for your health either. Just look at the problems it has caused for a select few members here.
I take it from your post, you prefer not to use fluoride toothpaste.

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Equally a stereotype, akin to calling Japanese tourists a bunch of dark suit wearing camera fumblers.

It's a stereotype if you are outside of the paradigm. If the foo shits....
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heh, heh.......yes! We don't have Dentists in the UK and no one buys any toothpaste, brushes, mouthwash, detal floss or any other item relating to teeth hygene heh, heh.....the image in your post - is that of a typical Amrikan? Very nice toothwork! heh, heh........
The smart ones. They all knew the Chinese were poisoning the toothpaste, using lead paint on the toothbrushes, and god knows whats next.

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haha...a co-worker just told me this. he said he went over to visit and most of the people in the part of the UK he visited had teeth that looked horrribly yellow and rotten. He said he tried to talk to a nice looking female that looked pretty good but her dental work was very bad and yellow.

is this true of the people in the UK?
It is as true of people in the UK as saying all Americans are obese from eating burgers all day. Are you ALL fat?

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Yes, unfortunately it's our Scots' heritage.

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