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In part two and three of the report, I am sure fundamentalist Christians and Muslims will get their share of uncomfortable truth and criticism as well.
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In part two and three of the report, I am sure fundamentalist Christians and Muslims will get their share of uncomfortable truth and criticism as well.
True, but I tend to watch it and take everything in context with what Israel and AIPAC is doing. I believe they are the reasons for the terrorism.
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True, but I tend to watch it and take everything in context with what Israel and AIPAC is doing. I believe they are the reasons for the terrorism.
I don't wholly believe that. Sometimes they are the excuses for the terrorism.

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Some good points there for sure, but I am not sure that 9/11 attacks were because of AIPACS and the settlement.

However, of this I am sure.

There will NEVER be peace in the middle east until the problem of Palestine and Israel is solved.

Oil has nothing to do about that.

It is TOTALLY about Palestine and Israel.

There is PLENTY of blame to go around on every corner.

I think no matter how you put a face on it, the USA is blatantly tilted towards Israel. There are more Jewish people in the USA than in Israel, so who would be surprised anyway? It's our dirty little secret. We are putting on a face that we want to be balanced, but selling arms to Israel and not the Palestinians, and why was not the Israel bombing and invasion of Lebanon protested by Bush - who turned the other way? EVEN THOUGH the Hizbollah bastards started the whole thing

My impression would be the Arab world and Media in general probably thinks the USA is totally pro Israeli and anti Palestinian.

Even if it is NOT true, and most Americans don't care, or favor both sides equally and only want to see peace over there. I had the chance to go to Jerusalem for just $600 over Christmas back in 1983 but didn't ....Guess why.....Trip of a lifetime but didn't take it.

It was just TOO dangerous for an American. Thats why the Church could get the tickets so cheap, they were desparate for tourists. Terry Anderson and the others had just got kidnapped by terrorists.

And there were not any Israeli terrorists kidnapping Americans, holding hostages, bombing US barracks in Beirut, blowing up airplanes over Scotland, nightclubs in Berlin, etc etc.

Those thing were all muslims, so naturally Americans blamed people of that faith because those things happened.

Just a big mess, that is my opinion, that is all.

AND lets not forget the ARMS dealers, selling guns, bombs missiles rockets and weapons to EVERYONE who wants one.

More blame to go around. Plenty for the Russians and Chinese there too.

You seem to have missed the USS Liberty attack!

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You seem to have missed the USS Liberty attack!
Right, my bad. So, let's look at it for a minute. Since you brought it up.

USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Instigated by the Israelis. 34 Americans dead.

Seems that there are conflicting stories about this 1967 incident.

It MAY have been a mistake, based on a misidentification of the ship by the Israelis.

Maybe even pretty stupid, but the historical evidence is pretty much in, and while Wikipedia isn't written large by the hand of God moving slowly across the sky, the evidence is inconclusive.


A little math: Israel ---------------> USA =34 dead

Muslims. 9/11--------------> USA = over 3,000 dead.

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Sorry, that ship was on a type of operation that I used to do for a living....it was not an accident. The Israelis knew what the capabilities of that ship were, what it was doing and that's why it was attacked.

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Sorry, that ship was on a type of operation that I used to do for a living....it was not an accident. The Israelis knew what the capabilities of that ship were, what it was doing and that's why it was attacked.

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Don't forget Jonathan Pollard.

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Any thoughts on the Muslim segment that aired last night? Did anyone compare this segment to the Jewish warriors segment?
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