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White House Criticizes Clinton Ad

White House Criticizes Clinton Ad

The Associated Press
Wednesday, August 15, 2007; 12:44 PM



CRAWFORD, Texas -- The White House on Tuesday assailed Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton for criticizing President Bush in her latest television ad, calling her statements "outrageous." The 60-second spot, which began running Tuesday in Iowa, intercuts scenes of the candidate interacting with voters and talking about challenges facing many working people.

"If you're a family that is struggling and you don't have health care, you are invisible to this president," the New York senator says in the ad. "If you're a single mom trying to find affordable child care so you can go to work, you're invisible too.

The ad also argued that U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are "invisible" to Bush.

White House deputy press secretary Dana Perino initially declined to comment on the ad, but then lambasted the spot and the senator.

"As to the merits of it, I think it's outrageous. This is a president who, first and foremost, has helped millions of seniors across the country have access to prescription drugs at a much lower cost," Perino said. "As to whether or not our troops are invisible to this president, I think that is absurd and that it is unconscionable that a member of Congress would say such a thing."

Happy to be in a debate with the White House, the Clinton campaign quickly linked to the official transcript of Perino's comments on its campaign Web site, HillaryHub, with the headline, "White House Attacks Hillary's New Ad."

Campaigning in Dubuque, Iowa, Clinton referred to the White House criticism of her "invisible" comments.

"Apparently I've struck a nerve. The White House just attacked me a few minutes ago," Clinton said. "Not only have I said it and am saying it, I will keep saying it because I happen to believe it."

Calling herself an optimistic and modern progressive who would help the nation overcome economic disparities, Clinton said the U.S. can "grow" its economy amid global competition "and do it in a way that benefits all Americans."

Clinton said the Bush administration "is working for Americans with incomes at the very top."

"Americans work harder than anyone else in the world, yet we're not getting rewarded," she said. "We're seeing a growing gap between the haves and have-nots that threatens the backbone of our country, the middle class that built our country."
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I think this part of the White House response is truly priceless:
"As to the merits of it, I think it's outrageous.
This is a president who, first and foremost, has helped millions of seniors across the country have access to prescription drugs at a much lower cost,
" Perino said.
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I can not believe just how easily this Administration can be drawn into a fight that they cannot win. Now the FEC will get to address a non running president campaigning against the Dems. It will have the effect of making the White House a PAC. This should be fun.

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Are we now supposed to give 'A's for effort? While I acknowledge the Bushies have done nothing to reform healthcare, I find it amusing that haint would criticize the Bush White House for something she was a miserable failure trying to do while her husband was president. The American people have spoken. They don't want nationalized healthcare. We could use some reform but where do we start? It is this point no one seems to be able to agree on.

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Are we now supposed to give 'A's for effort? While I acknowledge the Bushies have done nothing to reform healthcare, I find it amusing that haint would criticize the Bush White House for something she was a miserable failure trying to do while her husband was president. The American people have spoken. They don't want nationalized healthcare. We could use some reform but where do we start? It is this point no one seems to be able to agree on.
I don't know where you have it that the people have "spoken" on universal healthcare. While the Clinton plan was not well received, remember, it was handed to the Newt Congress for deliberations so it did not exactly get a fair shake.

I think there are several plans in the making but it is very complex with so many special interests that have their fingers in the pie. I am guessing that once there is a further consolidation in Congress [should that occur in 08] a comprehensive plan will come together pretty fast. I would not want to own either pharma or insurance stocks when that rolls out.

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Hillary's health care plan was just plain awful. If she had put out a simple single-payer model with a chartered National Health Insurance company ala the old ATT, it would have flown. Instead she proposed a 100% governmental solution. I think you are in error on the Newt thing, Clinton's first two years were with a Democratic Congress. They were log-rolled by the insurance industry. The story of the Democrats forever, even now.

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Nothing anyone says in the Bush administation says anymore has credibility.

This is just more hot air from them

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I don't know where you have it that the people have "spoken" on universal healthcare. While the Clinton plan was not well received, remember, it was handed to the Newt Congress for deliberations so it did not exactly get a fair shake.

I think there are several plans in the making but it is very complex with so many special interests that have their fingers in the pie. I am guessing that once there is a further consolidation in Congress [should that occur in 08] a comprehensive plan will come together pretty fast. I would not want to own either pharma or insurance stocks when that rolls out.
When looking at other 'similar' models from other countries, one can only conclude socialized medicine is a step in the wrong direction. Where do you have that the American people DO want nationalized healthcare? I 'have it' from all the outrage of the American public when sketchy details were unveiled. It's time to go back to the drawing board, find out what the government really spends propping up uninsured citizens and find a way to more productively apply that money to help those who can't afford medical insurance. Once that is figured out, then the present system can be reformed to better serve the people.

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Hillary's health care plan was just plain awful. If she had put out a simple single-payer model with a chartered National Health Insurance company ala the old ATT, it would have flown. Instead she proposed a 100% governmental solution. I think you are in error on the Newt thing, Clinton's first two years were with a Democratic Congress. They were log-rolled by the insurance industry. The story of the Democrats forever, even now.
I agree it was not good. But if memory serves it was developed over 18 months during the winter of 1993 and through 1994 and submitted to Congress just as the Republicans got control. I will go back and look but somehow that is in my head but I could be wrong, I am going from memory.

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