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Yes, I know that, I'm not the one who referred to a Democrat as a "RepubliCUNT neocon". You are. Your message was lost in a swirl of misdirected hatred and name-calling. That is the point I'm trying to make. Gain credibility, lose the rancor.

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What makes you think Israel will ditch us? They are, nonetheless, our proxy nation. It will never happen.
for some reason they seem like backstabbers waiting to do us in...

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Better rethink that!! How would you know they are not waiting for our demise before they make a move? Look at your history book. Plenty of lessons there. Wait for the super power to implore, then stroll in and take the trophy.
you might be right...America is alone right now.

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It hasn't looked good for a very long time. You just woke up?
no. I've been following America's foreign policy for years...finally got my stubborn mom to wake up though...


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I hear you loud and clear...and I'm taking notes...
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Point I try to make is......war with China is a no-win. Doesn't matter how many nuclear warheads we drop on them.
this is easy to understand since America's troops are spread so thin around the world.....not to mention they are dog tired...
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How does it work both ways? Are there Chinese missiles in Cuba or the Florida Keys that I don't know about?
GS, and are you sure they don't have any that can make the track across the pond? They don't have to be right in our back yard.

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for some reason they seem like backstabbers waiting to do us in...
If you say so. But it appears that is how Jewish people like to do business........personal experience, of course. No offense to any Jewish members here.

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no. I've been following America's foreign policy for years...finally got my stubborn mom to wake up though...
To wake up out of bed? Or wake up to see the world for what if is? You lost me there.

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GS, and are you sure they don't have any that can make the track across the pond? They don't have to be right in our back yard.
According to GlobalSecurity.org which is pretty much the Gold Standard for the information to the public, China has had ICBM capabilities for well over 2 decades. [what do you think their space launch and satellite launches are based on?].

They also have Boomers, though I doubt they can out stealth our attack subs and more importantly, they ship about 2 BILLION containers to the US yearly of which we check 3-5%, and have sophisticated screening at only 40% of our ports. So I really don’t think delivery is an issue.

Intent would be more of the question. China really has no reason to attack us militarily, they like our money too much and have positioned themselves to defeat us economically over the next few decades, eliminating the need for any military action. [and also the initial focus of the thread].

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If you say so. But it appears that is how Jewish people like to do business........personal experience, of course. No offense to any Jewish members here.
oh really? please tell me more..i'm a sponge when it comes to learning new information to study upon...please continue.

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To wake up out of bed? Or wake up to see the world for what if is? You lost me there.
haha...my mom is one of the FEW elderly people that sees the world in it's proper light...she was one of those "old-fogeys" that wouldn't believe a thing negative about America's governement practices...now that my oldest brother was shipped off to Iraq, she finally "woke up" since her baby is now in a deadly war.

i was always the "conspiracy theorist" black sheep of the family..now I make more sense than any of my relatives and they kiss my ass for it now...
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GS, and are you sure they don't have any that can make the track across the pond? They don't have to be right in our back yard.
You seem to have missed my point completely, which is that getting involved in internal Chinese matters and arming Taiwan to the teeth is not likely to promote the loving relationship you seek. If you believe that there is some inverse relationship on that particular score, I assure you there is not. What we have done there is actually much more provocative than the events collectively referred to as the 1961 Cuban missile crisis.

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Yes, I know that, I'm not the one who referred to a Democrat as a "RepubliCUNT neocon". You are. Your message was lost in a swirl of misdirected hatred and name-calling. That is the point I'm trying to make. Gain credibility, lose the rancor.
but you can sit back and call people ignorant and uniformed?

the nerve of you....
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You seem to have missed my point completely, which is that getting involved in internal Chinese matters and arming Taiwan to the teeth is not likely to promote the loving relationship you seek. If you believe that there is some inverse relationship on that particular score, I assure you there is not. What we have done there is actually much more provocative than the events collectively referred to as the 1961 Cuban missile crisis.
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You are right that I misunderstood your point. I agree with you that by siding with Taiwan is not going to help the mainland Chinese to get a warm and fuzzy with us. Nor do they like us to muddling their internal affairs.

I think we have to come to term sooner or later, to abandon Taiwan and to embrace the mainland, or to continue this deadly cat and mouse diplomatic course we find no way out. I think that time is running rather short.

I also agree with you that the Chinese loves our money too much to wanting having a war with us. They have very much to lost as well.

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