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......that's what we believe and want, right team?

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US soldier sentenced to 110 years

Contradictory statements were made about Pfc Spielman's role

A US soldier has been sentenced to 110 years in prison for his role in the rape and murder of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her family.
Private Jesse Spielman was convicted of conspiracy to rape and murder.
He said he acted as a lookout for four other soldiers who carried out the attack in Mahmudiya in March 2006.
Pfc Spielman was given the longest sentence of the group. Three other soldiers pleaded guilty and received sentences between five and 100 years.
The fifth man faces trial in a civil court having been discharged from the army.
'Untrue' allegations
Earlier in the week-long court martial at Fort Campbell in Kentucky, Pfc Spielman of the 101st Airborne Division admitted arson, conspiracy to obstruct justice, wrongfully touching a corpse and drinking.
Although prosecutors did not accuse Pfc Spielman of taking part in the rape or murders, they argued he had participated in the planning of the attack while drinking whisky and playing cards with the other soldiers.



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One of the soldiers convicted of the attack, Sgt Paul Cortez, said that Pfc Spielman had stood within a few feet of them as they held down Abeer Qassim al-Janabi and had done nothing to stop them raping her.
The soldiers then killed Miss Janabi, her parents and her younger sister.
But another, Spc James Baker, testified that several portions of a sworn statement, which he had allowed investigators to draft, had falsely exaggerated Pfc Spielman's role in the attack.
On Friday evening, the military jury ruled that Pfc Spielman was guilty of conspiracy to commit rape, rape, housebreaking with intent to commit rape and four counts of felony murder.
Spc Barker, Sgt Cortez and another soldier, Pf. Bryan L Howard, pleaded guilty for their roles in the slayings and received sentences of five to 100 years under plea agreements with prosecutors. The alleged ringleader, former Pvt Steven Green was discharged from the army for a "personality disorder" before being charged. He faces a possible death sentence if found guilty by a civil court in Kentucky. On Friday, a US marine sergeant was found guilty of murdering an Iraqi civilian in a separate attack, and jailed for 15 years by a court martial in California.
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wrongfully touching a corpse and drinking.
??

I would imagine you can't have one without having the other.

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But he is a United States Soldier! One of our brothers fighting for our freedom! Sure, he killed a few innocents along the way, but he is fighting terrorism to keep our country free and safe!
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I would imagine you can't have one without having the other.
They should all have been given a death sentence.
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<sigh> eric, I was questioning why anyone would want to wrongfully touch a corpse.

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<sigh> eric, I was questioning why anyone would want to wrongfully touch a corpse.
I spent 12 good years in the British Army and saw active service three times, so I can understand the hell these soldiers go through. BUT to rape and then murder the whole family. What sort of high does that give anyone? Im saddened and sickened to hear this sort of thing. To say little of what it does for the Army immage. VERY SAD
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I spent 12 good years in the British Army and saw active service three times, so I can understand the hell these soldiers go through. BUT to rape and then murder the whole family. What sort of high does that give anyone? Im saddened and sickened to hear this sort of thing. To say little of what it does for the Army immage. VERY SAD
At least the perps were prosecuted.

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At least the perps were prosecuted.

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Try telling the relatives of this family that justice has been done, How would you feel?
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heh, heh.....the joy justice brings! heh, heh....."yours respectfully" manner! heh, heh.....
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Try telling the relatives of this family that justice has been done, How would you feel?
Didn't say it fixes anything. Said at least they were prosecuted.

Use your telepathy and tell me whether the survivors would have preferred that the perps not be court martialed and jailed?

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