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That "plop....plop....plop" noise you hear?


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Little info

Little info about this guy, I found it interesting.

HE WAS the face of the foiled terrorist attack on Scotland, a man engulfed in fire who raged against police and members of the public as flames consumed his flesh and sealed his fate.
The death of Kafeel Ahmed, after 33 days in hospital intensive care units is a blow to the authorities who have lost the opportunity to discover what drove a brilliant engineer to turn his car into a bomb and himself into a fireball.

Too ill to even be charged with his act of terrorism, Kafeel Ahmed, a 28-year-old Indian, was the driver of the Jeep Cherokee that smashed into the entrance of Glasgow Airport last month after he left a rented house in the village of Houston, a few miles from his final target.

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The son of Maqbool Ahmed and his wife, Zakhia, both doctors, he was raised in a home in the wealthy Banashankari area of Bangalore, south-eastern India. His parents have now retired after closing down a nursing home they ran for several years.

Kafeel and his brother, Sabeel, were born in Saudi Arabia, where their parents worked for a few years.

Sabeel Ahmed has been charged with withholding information that could prevent an act of terrorism.

Kafeel was revealed to be a doctor, but of engineering, not medicine, and possessed the knowledge with which to construct explosive devices.

He initially obtained a degree in engineering at a college in Davangere, about 300 miles north-west of Bangalore.

Fellow students remembered him as a nervous young man, painfully shy, and who rarely mentioned religion, but wept when mocked. "He was always very nervous during that time and once or twice he even started crying,'' said KV Arun, a former classmate. "But no-one can deny that he was brilliant.''

Ahmed provided false information for admission to the college, stating he was a Hindu rather than a Muslim.

His college record shows he ranked fifth in a graduating class of nearly 400, earning a degree in mechanical engineering in 2000.

He then travelled to Belfast where he completed a master of philosophy degree in aeronautical engineering at Queen's University in 2003.

He later specialised for a doctorate in computational fluid dynamics, gained at Anglia Polytechnic University, later renamed Anglia Ruskin University, in Cambridge. A complex subject, it involves using computers to simulate the flow of fluids and gases over structures.

Professor Derek Sheldon, who supervised Ahmed during his time at Anglia Ruskin and was cited by the young man as a referee, expressed shock at hearing of his alleged involvement in a terrorist plot, but suggested he may have been radicalised in recent times.

Prof Sheldon said: "I can't believe it is the same boy. He was a lovely person when I knew him. I was in constant contact with him until last December, then silence."

During Ahmed's time in Belfast, where he lived in Hampton Place between 2001 and 2004, he was a member of the Islamic Student Society of Northern Ireland.

Jamal Iweida, of the Belfast Islamic Centre, also put forward the image of a friendly, polite student. He said: "He was a very pleasant, very placid, and friendly guy. He was very polite, intelligent, and intellectual. He was one of the main people in the society who organised very good activities about multiculturalism, inter-faith integration, and the like. They would invite speakers from other religions."

It is believed the fight to keep Ahmed alive involved a pioneering skin graft procedure, using a skin substitute made from shark cartilage and cow tendons. The implants cost an estimated £20,000....

It will now be more difficult to discover who and what converted a quiet, nervous young man into a radical terrorist who was prepared to sacrifice his life and that of many innocent travellers. There are, however, clues.

Police have already examined his computer and CDs seized from his house in Banashankari in India.

It is understood that information gathered so far from the hard disc and the CDs show that he was interested in Jihad literature and the plight of the Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan and Chechnya....
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"brilliant engineer"??

"a man engulfed in fire who raged against police and members of the public as flames consumed his flesh"
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"a man engulfed in fire who raged against police and members of the public as flames consumed his flesh"
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One can be brilliant and also be a psychopath. Sanity and intelligence are mostly independent functions of cognition.

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One can be brilliant and also be a psychopath. Sanity and intelligence are mostly independent functions of cognition.
@guage: I have as much compassion to him as you do.

@Bot: Insanity? Are you serious? So all of them are insane?

What I find amusing is how far from the stereotyped terrorist this subject was up until shit hit the fan.
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@guage: I have as much compassion to him as you do.

@Bot: Insanity? Are you serious? So all of them are insane?

What I find amusing is how far from the stereotyped terrorist this subject was up until shit hit the fan.
Didn't say they all were insane. Said that intelligence and sanity are largely independent attributes of cognition.

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