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Let me make this clear, there is NO JEWISH CONSPIRACY however there is an Israeli interest in our secrets for whatever reasons. He spied AGAINST us but his supporters' argument is that he should be released because he spied for a very close ally and that should make it less than a crime. The bottom line Israel is spying on us despite all the monies, contributions and free lunches it gets from us; do you think that's gratitude?
I would hope that he rots in jail not because he's Jewish but because he's a spy. Do you think he should get a break? Why?

PS. Please don't lump up Jewish and Israeli interests as one on purpose; I know you know the difference
I think the traitor should have been executed.

The days of Sec Henry Stimson's admonition concerning espionage, "Gentlemen don't read other gentlemen's mail" are long dead and in any case, he was naive even in his own day.

I have absolutely no doubt that Israel has spies in the USA actively seeking advantage for Israel. I'll bet that France has spies here for the same reason. So does every other country that is either fearful of the US or needful of information concerning the USA. That's the nature of life. I also have no doubt (yet little evidence) that the USA spies on friends and foes and every other sort of nation in the world. nations live and die on information. That too, is the nature of life.

There are very few nations with whom we are so entwined as to allow near-total access to our intelligence systems. Everybody else is going to have various forms of espionage.

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I have absolutely no doubt that Israel has spies in the USA actively seeking advantage for Israel. I'll bet that France has spies here for the same reason. So does every other country that is either fearful of the US or needful of information concerning the USA. That's the nature of life. I also have no doubt (yet little evidence) that the USA spies on friends and foes and every other sort of nation in the world. nations live and die on information. That too, is the nature of life.

There are very few nations with whom we are so entwined as to allow near-total access to our intelligence systems. Everybody else is going to have various forms of espionage.

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That's pretty much what I was trying to tell him, but no one is more deaf than the man who doesn't want to listen.

The point was, any and every country will gladly spy on any other country no matter what the current state of the relationships is.

And if anyone thinks US does not have intelligence personnel in Israel or France or UK or Germany, they are badly mistaken.

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That's pretty much what I was trying to tell him, but no one is more deaf than the man who doesn't want to listen.

The point was, any and every country will gladly spy on any other country no matter what the current state of the relationships is.

And if anyone thinks US does not have intelligence personnel in Israel or France or UK or Germany, they are badly mistaken.
You are one fkin liar, you were not trying to reason, as matter of fact here is your first post and response to the thread:
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Prof, you are biased...you are...aren't you?

If you don't have anything to say except stupid insinuations, STFU pretty please.

My name is maine_coon and I have approved this message.
Then you went on about anti-Semtism, you know the usual weak and pathetic shit assholes like you pull out to carpet bomb any debate that's too close for comfort. I asked you several times to be a man and answer a specific question but all I got was a weasel.
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^ He may have been stung in the ear by a Russian scorpion.
How's your scorpion sting doing?
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Completely healed in about three days. I guess I was lucky, I've heard tell of considerably less pleasant experiences. I even found the SOB that got me. He has been captured and remanded to scorpion gitmo. Actually, I'll probably release him outside later today....

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The days of Sec Henry Stimson's admonition concerning espionage, "Gentlemen don't read other gentlemen's mail" are long dead and in any case, he was naive even in his own day.

I have absolutely no doubt that Israel has spies in the USA actively seeking advantage for Israel. I'll bet that France has spies here for the same reason. So does every other country that is either fearful of the US or needful of information concerning the USA. That's the nature of life. I also have no doubt (yet little evidence) that the USA spies on friends and foes and every other sort of nation in the world. nations live and die on information. That too, is the nature of life.

There are very few nations with whom we are so entwined as to allow near-total access to our intelligence systems. Everybody else is going to have various forms of espionage.

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In case you haven't noticed, the USA in the name of domestic security has also dramatically increased its intelligence gathering and data mining amongst those living here,
I wonder how you feel about that

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In case you haven't noticed, the USA in the name of domestic security has also dramatically increased its intelligence gathering and data mining amongst those living here,
I wonder how you feel about that
Does this remind you of

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Completely healed in about three days. I guess I was lucky, I've heard tell of considerably less pleasant experiences. I even found the SOB that got me. He has been captured and remanded to scorpion gitmo. Actually, I'll probably release him outside later today....
You can always fry it, I hear they taste good
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You are one fkin liar, you were not trying to reason, as matter of fact here is your first post and response to the thread:


Then you went on about anti-Semtism, you know the usual weak and pathetic shit assholes like you pull out to carpet bomb any debate that's too close for comfort. I asked you several times to be a man and answer a specific question but all I got was a weasel.
Proof, I think you are an idiot.

This is my final answer.

Fkuckkk off a$$hole I have nothing to say to you.
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