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And I thought I owned my house ...

It turns out that I really don't -

Don't know if this is the same down south - but my britches are burning a little -

It turns out that absolutly any @rsehole can walk into a government office & file a mineral rights claim on any private property - they automatically get full mining rights - strip mine it all ?? sure !

It has bee big in the news around here recently and there is now a court case & a bunch of lawsuits going on - all the way from British Columbia to Ontario -

Ottawa Citizen:
found a 139-year-old piece of Ontario legislation that allowed mining prospectors "free entry" to his property. He also learned he didn't own the "mineral rights" to his land, so while he owned the surface of the land, he did not own what was buried beneath. And, he found out who the prospector was ...."We began to check it out and discovered roads had been dug out and trees had been cleared.

""[...] last year the province created an online staking system that allows anyone with internet access and $25 to acquire a miner's license and then, at $0.17 an acre, buy mineral rights to land. It doesn't matter whether that land belongs to a neighbour, the Crown, or the "miner" himself. Once you own the mineral rights, you are free to "explore" your claims, wander the property, "poke at a few rocks," in the words of MP Tom Christensen. And once you decide to start drilling and digging, even the landowner's dwelling and buildings are at risk. That's the law under the Mineral Tenure Act as of 2002, when the section prohibiting miners from "obstruction or interference" with activities (or buildings) on private land was repealed.""



So some dickwad could level my house & land for less than 30 bucks
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Cool, time for us to invest in Canada. Where is your address exactly?

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Cool, time for us to invest in Canada. Where is your address exactly?
Why don't you try here first ????

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you can never truly own your own house. Even if you pay off your home you still gotta pay property taxes and if you don't you can say byebye to your biggest investment. It's almost like a long lease. I think there is a law in CA and not sure elsewhere that if title to a home isn't transferred for 100 yrs government will automatically take over the title.

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you can never truly own your own house. Even if you pay off your home you still gotta pay property taxes and if you don't you can say byebye to your biggest investment. It's almost like a long lease. I think there is a law in CA and not sure elsewhere that if title to a home isn't transferred for 100 yrs government will automatically take over the title.
Yeah but at 25 bucks & 17 cents an acre to dig it all up ????

So they dig it it up - your property is now worthless - what you do then ???
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Yes, it is quite similar here where I live. But, in order to explore, the person who owns the mineral rights must make every reasonable attempt to protect 'peace and property' of the land owner. Also, you must have a minimum of 30 contiguous acres to explore. You're reasonably safe if one owns the mineral rights to, say, your one acre plot. On top of this, the property owner gets a percentage of anything found (10 or 15%? not sure?). My dad and his brother bought a 99 year lease on mineral rights to some property not far from where I live. If they had ever found anything, the landowner takes 10% GROSS proceeds from the find.

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Drew...tell him about Baltimore's ground rents.

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Drew...tell him about Baltimore's ground rents.
Yeah that's actually true throughout Maryland. Some properties are subjetc to ground rent where the resident must pay a yearly rent in addition to his mortgage and taxes. Should that person default on the ground rent that house is gone with minimum efforts

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on the flip side is a cheap investment to lure someone into plowing your field to harvest some bio fuel. They will come dig it all up, wont find anything say goodbye and leave. You have dugged up ground to add some seeds and start growing green energy!

Fuel economy!! whats that??
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In most countries, when you buy a house you buy a house, not the land.

Land is loaned to you. From the government.

Even Hawaii has this kind of dual-system for the land ownership. Simple fee and something else or whatever.

Sucks, eh?
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