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Look, I am not comfortable here, but I see what's going on and it worries me! The crazed people that did what they did on 911 and before will do it again. My kid was sent to the middle east, every one was trying to kill him. This holy war goes back to the middle ages. I thought we went to stop another lunatic, and his bizzare family and coherts. In WW11 the Arab world was an ally of Nazi Germany. And that was the war to end all wars. God bless America, and I pray we stay the biggest bullys on the block! Semperfi!
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I get what you're saying. You're saying that militant Islam is separate and should be separate from regular Islam. You're right, I agree with you.

What I disagree with you on is if all Muslims are bad or good etc. While there are many peaceful Muslims, there are many who are not. I would say that many of the Muslims living in the US, US born or immigrants like the US. They like the freedoms we have, the money, and whatever it is Muslims like. So they have a good deal to lose. These men, however, that come for the most part from poor families are jealous of what we possess. Rather than try and use our technology to help their own countries, they instead read the Koran and see the verses dealing with killing infidels. In many cases they don't know how to read, so they take what their teacher says to be true. An example of this NOT taking place is Dubai. There the leaders have said they want a better future for their people. If you live in a nation such as Dubai, with the Palm Jumeriah(spelling?) and the new waterfront why would you want to take away this plush and luxurious lifestyle and blow yourself up in Iraq, or fly planes into buildings?

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Halliburton, likes Dubai:~)
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Why don't we just build a border fence...that should stop them.
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I only know what I see and hear at the corner store, right now, right here. And it's not good.
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Look, I am not comfortable here, but I see what's going on and it worries me! The crazed people that did what they did on 911 and before will do it again. My kid was sent to the middle east, every one was trying to kill him. This holy war goes back to the middle ages. I thought we went to stop another lunatic, and his bizzare family and coherts. In WW11 the Arab world was an ally of Nazi Germany. And that was the war to end all wars. God bless America, and I pray we stay the biggest bullys on the block! Semperfi!
So you justify the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people using the activities of Arabs sixty years ago? By your reasoning, shouldn't we support allowing black people to slaughter Southern White Boys?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Don't get me wrong, I do believe we're at war with militant Islam, mainly of the Wahabbist (sp?) sect. I just don't think we're at war with all Muslims.
I think that is true. I would add Fundamentalist Shiites as well, and then ask why the fuck we are turning Iraq over to them.

BTW, Saddam Hussein was ideologically opposed to both.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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In WW11 the Arab world was an ally of Nazi Germany.

LOL..as if hitler wasnt gonna destroy the arabs after he's finished off the jews..
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Take Islam away from politics and give muslims some real education beside memorizing of Quran like parrots. And situation would improve much.

Fuel economy!! whats that??
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