Originally Posted by cascade
Good grief, someone who still thinks the Vietnam war was lost because of how the war was reported on TV in the United States.
It brings to mind speeches of Adolf Hitler in 1919 about how Germany really lost World War I because it was "stabbed in the back" by the signatories of the Versailles treaty. Those speeches played very well to resentful war
veterans and helped get the Nazi party going as a viable political party.
There are a few parallels between the involvement in Iraq and the involvement in Vietnam. The Gulf of Tonkin incident back in 1964 was the excuse to begin really massive involvement there, but that incident was not what it was portrayed as by LBJ.
The Domino theory of communism, and supporting the latest corrupt regime in South Vietnam which really had no popular national support was what brought in the escalating troop presence. Like it or not, Ho Chi Minh and the Vietcong inherited the mantle of nationalism for that country, and if you read your history, back in 1945 Ho's plea for US aid fell on deaf ears. The undignified end in 1975 was the final act to the events in Dine Bien Phu in 1954 when the French left
History has proven that the United States made a dreadful mistake to get involved in Vietnam.
It amazes me that there are still Vietnam veterans around that could actually in the light of history still believe in that ridiculous "stabbed in the back" theory.
Maybe they should all go back there and try to finish winning the war. "Bonne chance".
The Vietnam war is over. You lost. Get over it. Move on.
I always find it interesting how those that were never there and weren't old enough to care are all of a sudden more knowledgeable then those that actually participated.
The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was very much as portrayed by LBJ, although it was more of a screw up by the North than anything else. They did attack our destroyers as was portrayed by the POTUS, I was deployed from Okinawa that morning along with my fighter interceptor squadron. We were based at Tan Son Nut.
Oh, and the French didnâ€™t LEAVE, they were thrown out on their butts in 1954.
The â€śtheoryâ€ť that we were stabbed in the back, isnâ€™t a theory, itâ€™s a fact. The US never lost a battle in Vietnam, the war was lost on the home front, whether you believe it or not. I can see the same thing happening again, the demonizing of the troops, the slander of our motives, and the lack of support from the left. Itâ€™s all starting over againâ€¦â€¦â€¦