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'New rules for new wars'

Conference brings Israeli, US experts together to 'fine tune' international law
Yaakov Lappin

The Geneva Convention on armed conflict and the 100 year-old Hague Rules on war need to be "fine tuned" to meet the challenges posed by 21st century asymmetrical warfare, Israeli and American experts said during a conference in Herzliya on Monday.


The two-day conference, 'New Battlefield, Old Laws,' is being held at the Interdisciplinary Center (IDC) in Herzliya, and was jointly organized by the IDC's International Institute for Counter Terrorism (ICT) and Syracuse University's Institute for National Security and Counter Terrorism.


"This conference is about the application of rules to asymmetrical war," William Banks, Director of Institute for National Security, told Ynetnews. "It's about finding new ways to look at rules to govern modern warfare. We hope to try and make concrete proposals for the governing of asymmetric conflict," he added.


When asked whether such rules could ever be relevant to terrorists, Banks replied, "This is the most difficult question. We're looking at incentives so that the bad guys may come to the table, but it's a very tricky business."


Boaz Ganor, Executive Director of the ICT, said the conference was mainly aimed at internal dialogues within democracies. "It's not important whether terrorists respect international laws. The question is, what are our moral constraints as a democracy fighting terrorists?" he said.


"One example is the use by the IDF of disguised commando soldiers in raids. On the face of it, the State is obliged to send soldiers that can be identified. On the other hand, we know that such a tactic allows for a surgical strike, with the least risk to Palestinian civilians. This means we need to fine tune the Geneva Conventions on army uniforms," Ganor added.


"We're not calling for an abandoning of international law or an extreme change, but for an internationally accepted platform," Ganor emphasized. "We do believe there is a need to go over international law and fine tune it," he added.


Mitchell Wallerstein, Dean of the Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs at Syracuse University, cited the Second Lebanon War as a good example of new types of warfare requiring new rules.




"Last summer, the IDF faced the issue of human shields, and the storing of weapons in civilian areas. We've seen this in other places such as Somalia and the Balkans. We are likely to see this again," Wallerstein said.


"International law does not adequately deal with this issue," he added.

The Herzliya conference will be followed by a meeting in Washington DC in October, in which experts in international law and national security are expected to list recommendations for reforming international law on warfare.
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Human shields - ya ya ya - how about detained "non-combatants"
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You appear to read that as a bad thing....... Is there something wrong with defining what is, and is not, acceptable under extreme conditions? It's been done in the past.
Do you think warfare hasn't changed enough to warrant some refined definitions?

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You appear to read that as a bad thing....... Is there something wrong with defining what is, and is not, acceptable under extreme conditions? It's been done in the past.
Do you think warfare hasn't changed enough to warrant some refined definitions?
As long as they are "just refined" but not changed to protect people like Bush and Co to do as they please and make their own rules.
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You appear to read that as a bad thing....... Is there something wrong with defining what is, and is not, acceptable under extreme conditions? It's been done in the past.
Do you think warfare hasn't changed enough to warrant some refined definitions?
Fine but don't you think that others should be invited for a debate then a decision, or are the world's affairs now somethings the US and Israel can toy with exclusively?

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Fine but don't you think that others should be invited for a debate then a decision, or are the world's affairs now somethings the US and Israel can toy with exclusively?
Just what makes you think that the Convention will accept anything that only TWO nations may have ratified? Maybe you’re getting a bit paranoid?

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