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Limbaugh's faulty memory: "I don't know who's accusing [Hillary Clinton] of murdering anybody"


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On the July 9 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, host Rush Limbaugh read aloud the following passage from a Dallas Morning News op-ed by Melinda Henneberger: "The most appealing thing about Hillary Rodham Clinton has always been her enemies, who often seem not in their right mind, screaming that she is a murderer and calling her names like 'Her Thighness.' They make you want to like her." Limbaugh responded, "Have you ever heard of that? 'Her thighness'? I've never heard of that term for Hillary, and I don't know who's accusing her of murdering anybody." In fact, Limbaugh himself has suggested on several occasions that Sen. Clinton (D-NY) was responsible for the 1993 death of then-White House counsel Vincent Foster.

In 1994, Limbaugh reportedly cited a forthcoming "report" which he said claimed that Foster, who committed suicide in Northern Virginia's Fort Marcy Park on July 20, 1993, "was murdered in an apartment owned by Hillary Clinton, and the body was then taken to Fort Marcy Park." From a 1994 report by the national media watch group Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR):

On his March 10 radio broadcast, Limbaugh had announced the following in urgent tones:

OK, folks, I think I got enough information here to tell you about the contents of this fax that I got. Brace yourselves. This fax contains information that I have just been told will appear in a newsletter to Morgan Stanley sales personnel this afternoon. ... What it is is a bit of news which says ... there's a Washington consulting firm that has scheduled the release of a report that will appear, it will be published, that claims that Vince Foster was murdered in an apartment owned by Hillary Clinton, and the body was then taken to Fort Marcy Park.

After he returned from a commercial break, Limbaugh began referring to the story as a "rumor," but continued to claim that the story was that "the Vince Foster suicide was not a suicide."

Limbaugh was referring to an item in a newsletter put out by the Washington, D.C. firm of Johnson Smick International. The newsletter, relating a rumor that has no apparent basis in fact, reported that White House attorney Foster's suicide occurred in an apartment owned by White House associates, and that his body was moved to the park where it was found.

Limbaugh took this baseless rumor from a small insiders' newsletter and broadcast it to his radio audience of millions, adding his own new inaccuracies: The newsletter did not report -- as Limbaugh claimed -- that Foster was murdered, or that the apartment was owned by Hillary Rodham Clinton.

More recently, in September 2005, Limbaugh repeatedly suggested that if anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan continued to criticize Clinton, she would "end up in Fort Marcy Park." On the September 19, 2005, broadcast, Limbaugh said of Sheehan: "I will guarantee you she's already had the talking-to. Somebody has gotten to her and said, 'Do the words Fort Marcy Park mean anything to you?' I will guarantee you, my friends, that by the time all is said and done -- if she calls her [Clinton] out one more time -- that's it for Cindy Sheehan." On the following day's broadcast, Limbaugh said that Sheehan "will not mention her [Clinton] again, ladies and gentlemen, unless she wants to end up in Fort Marcy Park. Mark my words on it." Furthermore, on his January 22, 2007, broadcast, Limbaugh advised a caller to "go to Fort Marcy Park" on the caller's upcoming visit to Washington, D.C., and "[s]ee if you get out alive."

Media Matters has documented numerous other examples of media figures portraying Clinton as violent or ruthless.

From the July 9 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: The gals are conflicted out there about Hillary. They really don't like her, but it's just not right to say so or to think so. Let me read you some excerpts of this.

"The most appealing thing about Hillary Rodham Clinton has always been her enemies, who often seem not in their right mind, screaming that she is a murderer and calling her names like 'Her Thighness.' Her enemies make you want to like her. Yet in --"

Have you ever heard of that? "Her thighness?" I've never heard of that term for Hillary, and I don't know who's accusing her of murdering anybody. Anyway.

"Yet in interviews across the country with women of all ages, races, income brackets and points of view, one of the rare patches of common ground was skepticism about the first female presidential contender with a serious shot at [the White House]. Over 18 months, I traveled to 20 states listening to women speak at length about what they care about and what drives them crazy as they look toward the presidential election in '08. I ought to like her, many of the strongest Democrats among them said. But on no other matter did left, right and center converge as on the view best summed up as 'Anybody but Hillary' -- to the point that I began to dread the mention of her name, because it meant we would probably not get around to talking about anything else that day.

"All of which runs contrary to the accepted narrative of this election cycle, which is that it is women who are leading the charge for Mrs. Clinton's candidacy. Polling, which at this point still mainly measures name ID, certainly shows a far more mixed picture for Mrs. Clinton where female voters are concerned."

This is no myst -- look at the female candidate in France, Segolene [Royal].

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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Limbaugh is simply the Joe Franklin of our time, just with a bigger audience. It is interesting that the lies that he perpetuates, to his core audience is the very fodder that will continue a movement to curtail his form of unregulated political broadcasting from existing. Freedom of Speech is protected. Lying is not. Sadly other forms of speech will be hurt in the process of cleaning out the garbage.

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Limbaugh is the same as all the other news organizations and talk show hosts - he leans one way more than the other, and he uses extreme examples to make a point. Problem is, no one is asking to silence the TV news organizations or newspapers because they lean to the left, but talk radio is trying to be silenced because they lean to the right. The liberals push to silence talk radio is downright scary - if that's going to be done, then we need a push to silence TV news.

PS - The line of dead behind the Clinton's rise is interesting to note.

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PS - it is urban legend bullshit.
Urban Legends Reference Pages: The Clinton Body Count

Limbaugh doesn't use "extreme examples", he is and always has been a somewhat entertaining fat fucking liar. It is a sad commentary on conservatism that he is one of it's central figures.

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Limbaugh is the same as all the other news organizations and talk show hosts - he leans one way more than the other, and he uses extreme examples to make a point.
Actually he is not the same. Limbaugh has been cited many times for outright lies which are not the same as "leaning one way more than the other". There are a couple of right leaning hosts who, because they are syndicated are able to get away with lying and not have to deal with the consequences [due to lack of regulations]. On the other hand, a local talk show host, who does the same thing is under FCC scrutiny and the local station can lose its license when the talk show host lies.

No one has ever wanted to go to official means to quell Limbaugh’s ability to “lean right”. That is his right and fully protected. It is his lying that has folks taking issue. And LYING is not the same as “using extreme examples to make a point.” And that is where he, and a few of his peers are completely different than the Network or Cable News organizations, left or right.

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I think we should have a law requiring radio stations give opposing viewpoints equal time.

At the radio station's expense of course. I mean, they owe it to the citizens to properly educate them on all political viewpoints. That is the role of the airways, right?

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I think we should have a law requiring radio stations give opposing viewpoints equal time.

At the radio station's expense of course. I mean, they owe it to the citizens to properly educate them on all political viewpoints. That is the role of the airways, right?

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Limbaugh has been cited many times for outright lies which are not the same as "leaning one way more than the other".
Sounds like Dan Rather.

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So Dan Rather is being broadcast 24/7 around the country?

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