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post #51 of 55 (permalink) Old 07-12-2007, 01:14 PM
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You mean if 2 suppliers came in the store and one offered something the owner's customers liked and the other offered something they didn't like, that the owner would turn-away a supplier that customers don't like? How unfair!

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Go to your local grocer and ask how the deal goes with the Keebler and NaBisCo reps for shelf and end bunker space for their cookies. The backroom and bribe deals with that industry are epic. Or ask about Coke and Pepsi. Go to a restaurant that serves Pepsi and ask why you can't get a Coke. The under the table money, free stuff and contracts are mindnumbing. Like has nothing to do with it.

Now move that to the very finite time slices of syndicated radio, Network radio and local radio.

Once you understand the contracts, the no compete clauses, the no competitor clauses, cross syndication requirements and myriad of other things required you MIGHT understand. If you think you can just waltz up to WCBS, WWL, WRNO or KNBC with an open checkbook and rent time you are sadly misguided.

And remember, most of the issue of the Fairness Doctrine is to quell LYING on POLITICALLY based broadcasts, however the righties are trying to change the topic to equal time. Apparently they don’t want to debate the TRUTH issue.

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You mean if 2 suppliers came in the store and one offered something the owner's customers liked and the other offered something they didn't like, that the owner would turn-away a supplier that customers don't like? How unfair!

Maybe we should nationalize all media so we can be certain it is fair. Like in Venezuela & Cuba.

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Bot, you were the one who asked the question with such incredulity a few short posts ago:

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Do you mean a station will turn away paying customers? I didn't know that.

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So, are you advocating Chavez' solution to this question? A change of life in the works? Jim
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Republicans going nuts:

Wed, Nov 14, 2007 6:28pm ET
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Limbaugh on purported Clinton "warn[ing]" to Blitzer: "Wolf may want to beg off the debate because who's going to take care of his children?"


Discussing the November 15 Democratic presidential debate, which is scheduled to be moderated by CNN host Wolf Blitzer, Rush Limbaugh again suggested during the November 13 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show that the Clintons were somehow involved in the death of Vince Foster, former Clinton deputy White House counsel. Limbaugh stated, "We know Wolf's already got a reservation he's not aware of to Fort Marcy Park" -- the site in suburban Northern Virginia where Foster committed suicide. As Media Matters for America has noted (here, here, here, here, and here), Limbaugh has a history of invoking Fort Marcy Park, despite multiple official investigations that determined Foster committed suicide.

Limbaugh later claimed that "the Clinton Inc. war room today warn[ed] Wolf Blitzer" that " 'he'd better not do any personal-attack, [Tim] Russert-type questions Thursday night at the debate in Las Vegas.' Or else." Limbaugh added: "They didn't say 'or else,' but if you warned him, what do you mean? ... I speculated earlier that Wolf may want to beg off the debate because who's going to take care of his children?"

As the source of his claim that the Clinton camp had "warned" Blitzer, Limbaugh cited an anonymously sourced blurb on the Drudge Report asserting that a "top Clinton insider" warned Blitzer not to "pull a 'Russert.' " Blitzer has since stated that "[n]o one has pressured me. No one has threatened me. No one is trying to intimidate me. ... No one has even called me to try to pressure me or anything like that. ... I have not felt any pressure whatsoever," as Media Matters documented.

Later during the show, Limbaugh advised Blitzer to "get a cup," stating: "Wolf, by the way, get a cup. I don't know that Wolf's listening. I know he listens some. If he's not listening, somebody tell Wolf to get a cup. I know people at CNN monitor this show. You people at Media Matters, I know you're listening. Tell Wolf to get a cup. Well, I could send him one, but I -- [sigh] -- I don't know if mine would fit him."

As Media Matters noted, Limbaugh has himself claimed to have intimidated a reporter. During the October 15 broadcast of his show, Limbaugh claimed to have targeted an unnamed reporter who was writing "a cover story on me coming out of one of the big news magazines, and it was going to totally mischaracterize me and what I do and how I do it." Limbaugh continued: "[W]e found out who was writing it and made a couple phone calls to the person writing it. And we said, 'You know what? We're going to find out where your kids go to school. We're going to find out who you knocked up in high school. We're going to find out what drugs you used. We're going to find out where you go to drink and do -- we're gonna find out how you paid for your house. We're going to do -- and we're going to do exact -- and we're going to say that, you know what? You are no different than Al Goldstein. You both masturbate.' "

Limbaugh then claimed: "And the guy started screaming on the phone, just went -- 'You can't do that.' We said, 'Watch us.' And it changed the tone of the story by about 60 percent, I would say, from what it was going to be. But nobody does that to these people. Nobody does it to them. And that would be so much fun."

From the November 13 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

Media Matters - Limbaugh on purported Clinton "warn[ing]" to Blitzer: "Wolf may want to beg off the debate because who's going to take care of his children?"

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We have a local op-ed writer here who provides us with his weekly rant. He has been a rabid Clinton fan for years, he often quotes Media Matters as his primary source. He thinks MSNBC leans to far to the right, and don't get him started about the vast right wing conspiracy at NBC/CBS/ABC.

So, where do you go to get your facts/information to make an informed decision?
Blogs? Newspapers? Television? Radio? Which one is factual, which one does not provide their own slant?

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Limbaugh on purported Clinton "warn[ing]" to Blitzer: "Wolf may want to beg off the debate because who's going to take care of his children?"


Media Matters - Limbaugh on purported Clinton "warn[ing]" to Blitzer: "Wolf may want to beg off the debate because who's going to take care of his children?"
Umm...who cares??

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