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LET'S EXPAND GITMO

July 6, 2007 -- PRESIDENT Bush and his appointees should yank their tails from between their legs, stand up and fight for Guantanamo.
While suspected al Qaeda associates deployed their Mercedes-Benz bombs in London last week, congressional Democrats announced plans to halve Gitmo's funding. On June 29, as alleged Muslim terrorists prepared to ignite their Jeep Cherokee bomb the next day at Glasgow's airport, the Supreme Court announced it would hear fresh Gitmo lawsuits.

While human-rights groups holler for Guantanamo's closure, the administration whispers the same message.

"The president said he wants to close Guantanamo," Defense Secretary Robert Gates told journalists hours before the Glasgow attack. "We want to close it as a detainee facility."

This is pathetic, embarrassing and potentially fatal.

Team Bush should stop cowering beneath its desks and return fire. Bush should start by uttering a simple sentence: "I am proud of Guantanamo."

* Guantanamo keeps bloodthirsty terrorists surrounded by armed guards, ringed by barbed wire and encircled by the shark-filled Caribbean. Securing crazed killers there prevents them from coming here.

* Interrogating Gitmoites yields priceless intelligence. Al Qaeda bigwig Abu Zubaydah kept mum until interrogators played him the Red Hot Chili Peppers - at high volume. After they turned down the stereo, Zubaydah unmasked al Qaeda agents Omar al-Faruq, Rahim al-Nashiri and Ramzi bin al-Shibh.

Khalid Sheik Mohammed switched from taciturn to talkative after a few minutes of unpleasant but non-fatal waterboarding. With his guidance, counter-terrorists nabbed accused Islamo-butchers Majid Khan, Bali bomber Hambali, Rusman "Gun Gun" Gunawan, Yazid Suffat, Jose "Dirty Bomber" Padilla and Iyman Faris, who conspired to plunge the Brooklyn Bridge into the East River.

* Guantanamo's conditions are beyond humane. Detainees enjoy soccer and volleyball, pray to Mecca five times daily and eat Allah-ready meals, which have added 10 pounds to the typical combatant's physique. They also get medical care that even Bush-hater Michael Moore praises in his new movie, "Sicko."

Bush constantly should explain why Guantanamo must remain open. In fact, he should announce its expansion. Gitmo should become the global depository where foreign countries may harbor terror convicts and suspects.

Call it al-Qatraz.

Keeping Muslim radicals under U.S. supervision will prevent the outrage whereby at least 157 convicted or accused Islamic terrorists have engineered at least 17 escapes from custody since 9/11, in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen and four other countries. These murderers collectively have killed at least 328 individuals and wounded 518 more.

"Reports indicate that at least 30 former Guantanamo detainees have taken part in anti-coalition militant activities after leaving U.S. detention," says a Pentagon spokesman, Navy Cmdr. J.D. Gordon. "Some have subsequently been killed in combat in Afghanistan."

So, what should America do with these detainees? Hold 'em.

"When you capture a lawful enemy combatant and hold them as a prisoner of war," Pentagon detainee chief Alan Liotta recently said, "you are entitled, under the [Geneva Convention], to hold that individual until the end of the conflict." Although these non-uniformed detainees fall outside the convention, America should detain them at least until the War on Terror concludes.

And when does that happen? Ask Osama bin Laden & Co. when they plan to neutralize their guns, disable their car bombs and stop taking flight lessons.

Closing Gitmo buys Bush nothing. American and global leftists still will hate his guts, and enemy Islamofascists still will want him and his 300 million constituents dead. So, Bush might as well expand Guantanamo so he can padlock more Muslim fanatics - even if liberals scream.
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Where did you cut-and -paste that from? If you believe any of this you are just a brain fucked as Bush and his cronies. Gitmo is illegal according to Geneva convention. It undermines everything that America stands for. BTW, GITMO alone will create thousand of Osama's and Talibanis not to mention our our war crimes and the Illegal war and occupation. You like Gitmo so much, then why don't YOU and people like YOU reside there. I'm sure its safe
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Why not open up all of the concentration camps that are lurking in the background hidden from view and the press to house all of the Muslims in this country huh pcunningham? This way you insure that there will absolutely be no "terrorist" acts from these "savages" and we can go on with our lives in Mayberry.
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Where did you cut-and -paste that from? If you believe any of this you are just a brain fucked as Bush and his cronies. Gitmo is illegal according to Geneva convention. It undermines everything that America stands for. BTW, GITMO alone will create thousand of Osama's and Talibanis not to mention our our war crimes and the Illegal war and occupation. You like Gitmo so much, then why don't YOU and people like YOU reside there. I'm sure its safe
And it is YOUR pacifist attitude that will keep them coming after us. You can't reason with these people! They wanted us dead before Bush was president. Hell, they were shouting 'death to America!' when Carter was president. You want us to play 'fair'? When have they played fair? You seem to think these Al Qookies are U.S. citizens having the same rights as you and I. They aren't and they don't! What do you propose we do with these suicidilists? Release them back into their country where they can continue their carnage? Bring them over here? How about inviting one to live with you and your family since your heart bleeds for them.

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Why not open up all of the concentration camps that are lurking in the background hidden from view and the press to house all of the Muslims in this country huh pcunningham? This way you insure that there will absolutely be no "terrorist" acts from these "savages" and we can go on with our lives in Mayberry.
No one is proposing we lock up all muslims. C'mawn, dude! The ones caught in terrorist activities are who's there. There are no innocents in Gitmo!

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This way you insure that there will absolutely be no "terrorist" acts from these "savages" and we can go on with our lives in Mayberry.
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No one is proposing we lock up all muslims. C'mawn, dude! The ones caught in terrorist activities are who's there. There are no innocents in Gitmo!
If you are so sure, why are you afraid to try them fairly? No faith in the US system of justice? Understandable when you have a stooge like Gonzo running the place.

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No one is proposing we lock up all muslims. C'mawn, dude! The ones caught in terrorist activities are who's there. There are no innocents in Gitmo!
How do you know? I don't!
There got to be sleepers among the Muslim community and even spontaneous action from some because they feel outraged, then why not do a Japanese style vacation camp for all of them and sell out all of their properties to pay for our war in their land? This will also free up many jobs at 7 elevens for our kids that can't go to college because they are math challenged or are simply too lazy from all night lan parties
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And it is YOUR pacifist attitude that will keep them coming after us. You can't reason with these people! They wanted us dead before Bush was president. Hell, they were shouting 'death to America!' when Carter was president. You want us to play 'fair'? When have they played fair? You seem to think these Al Qookies are U.S. citizens having the same rights as you and I. They aren't and they don't! What do you propose we do with these suicidilists? Release them back into their country where they can continue their carnage? Bring them over here? How about inviting one to live with you and your family since your heart bleeds for them.
They have been against our Nation since the creation of Israel in THEIR backyards and our blind support for them no matter what they do. This was there before Bush and will go on after Bush. 9-11 was a result of of foreign policies, not hatred. You stop fucking the rest of the region on account of Israel, EVERYTHING will go away and we will seize to live in fear as we do now which costs us hundreds of Billions of dollars annually. AND YES, it is AS SIMPLE AS THAT! Here's another Idea to all of you who support Israel (Zionism) is ITS policies. Give them Alaska, Texas, or California and let them set up their own government there and let them call it whatever they wish. It would also be much cheaper!
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They have been against our Nation since the creation of Israel in THEIR backyards and our blind support for them no matter what they do. This was there before Bush and will go on after Bush. 9-11 was a result of of foreign policies, not hatred. You stop fucking the rest of the region on account of Israel, EVERYTHING will go away and we will seize to live in fear as we do now which costs us hundreds of Billions of dollars annually. AND YES, it is AS SIMPLE AS THAT! Here's another Idea to all of you who support Israel (Zionism) is ITS policies. Give them Alaska, Texas, or California and let them set up their own government there and let them call it whatever they wish. It would also be much cheaper!
No that's not a solution. Israel has a right to COEXIST with it Arab neighbors in PEACE. That land is more Jewish than Arab.
What we need to be is a real peace broker or simply butt out if we can't do it and we continue to use AIPAC as our guide for ME policy
Jews have a right to their Biblical land and Arabs have a right to be treated like human beings too, now where in this equation did we fail to put together a solution?
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