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Did Bush commit a crime by pardoning Libby?

In his statement responding to the pardon of Libby, Joesph Wilson accused the President of using his pardoning power to commit a crime, that crime being obstruction of justice, since Bush himself is suspected of being the one who ordered the outing of Plame. Do you believe Bush has committed this crime?

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Yes, but I also believe Bush thinks it is within his power to do what he wishes. He has Gonzales to advise him that that is the case, and Cheney to cheer him on. The group of thugs have no idea how to govern America. Jim
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Wilson is not questioning Bush's power to pardon, he is stating that he used it to commit a crime. There is even constitutional support for this view. Madison stated that the check on the power of pardon was the power of Congress to judge whether it had been misused.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Bush and gang can keep this charade up, there is plenty time left to find one crack to nail those bastards, just one crack is all we need. These fuckers are the worse criminals in law makers' clothing in modern time. Fuck them all.

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I am waiting to hear the official explanation from Bruce and Botnst as to why Bush is not guilty of this obvious crime. B&B Pravda has yet to speak.

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I am waiting to hear the official explanation from Bruce and Botnst as to why Bush is not guilty of this obvious crime. B&B Pravda has yet to speak.
If you believe he committed a crime, by all means, write or contact your local representative explaining why you believe so and get something done about it. It's certainly nothing any different than what past presidents have done. But talking about it here sure the hell isn't going to get anything done about it. You're only outraged because a Republican president done it. If it would have been one of your boyz, you'd be strangely silent. I've seen many threads dealing with the 'Fascist Fuck Bush' and 'Butt fucking Foley' but I have yet to see your outrage about 'Plane-ride Pelosi' and 'Freezer cash William Jefferson'.

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If you believe he committed a crime, by all means, write or contact your local representative explaining why you believe so and get something done about it. It's certainly nothing any different than what past presidents have done. But talking about it here sure the hell isn't going to get anything done about it. You're only outraged because a Republican president done it. If it would have been one of your boyz, you'd be strangely silent. I've seen many threads dealing with the 'Fascist Fuck Bush' and 'Butt fucking Foley' but I have yet to see your outrage about 'Plane-ride Pelosi' and 'Freezer cash William Jefferson'.
^ Actually, I believe it is. Can you provide examples to back your claim? Remember, Bush didn't pardon Libby, and for good reason since a civil trial is looming.

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^ Actually, I believe it is. Can you provide examples to back your claim? Remember, Bush didn't pardon Libby, and for good reason since a civil trial is looming.
Well crafted. I see your point. If you'd wear a hat, nobody would notice it!

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