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Ah, thanks for the clarification. But still, who cares? He's both wrong and an apparent whack-job, no? To me freedom of religion means not only that the state doesn't mandate (A) one religion over another but also that it doesn't mandate (B) any religion AT ALL. Someone who really believes that if it's not Christian it's illegal is as scary as the fanatic muslim pilot targeting the WTC. On the other hand, it's Wikipedia, which is not the most authoritative source, but if that's his real quote and it's in context, then he's a whack-job.

I also agree with Bot: if we're going to throw money at secular programs, it's inappropriate not to also ladle out the cash to groups that are faith-based; the tangential point of the "establishment" clause is to not treat entities differently simply because one says "atheist" and the other "Buddhist", in other words you don't single out religion for special treatment one way or the other.

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She didn't say he was the wisest, or most affable, or the best leader -- she said he was the "most brilliant". Think about that for a moment.
I've thought about this a moment.

She's a smart broad. Men like to be talked-up by women. She wasn't getting the job without his nomination. What did you want her to say, "I'm mildly qualified for this job, and if it helps, I think the man about to nominate me is a total douchebag...unless that will hurt my chances, in which case, I'm just kidding"??

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We don't actually know that.
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We don't actually know that.
That's a point.

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