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Old 06-25-2007, 12:15 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Thumbs up GREAT DISCUSSION of DIALOGUE!

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Hey James.....forget Iraq's interest for the moment........what are you doing in Iraq and what makes you the authority on suggestions for leaders to rule Iraq? Your constant reference to Nelson Mandela/Aparthied is totally out of the context for the current fiasco in Iraq! Basically, you appear to be geared for a similar Saudi DICTATORSHIP for Iraq in order that the likes of you can reap the benefits afforded by supporting a stooge like Sharif Ali!
Look at what's happening in Afghanistan? The stooge Karzai is doing a fantastic job - healthy swiss account balance, total chaos with zero infra-structure development and Taleban on the rising! But since Afghanistan offers no financial benefit (OIL!) and is a liability in terms of foreign trooops occupation, it is on the back burner as far as the West is concerned BUT Iraq has a resource of wealth (OIL!) to plunder and thus the continued illegal occupation irrespective!
As someone suggested, why don't you let the Iraqi masses decide what or who they want to decide their future?

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GREAT DISCUSSION of DIALOGUE!

Thank you for debating this issue with me and sharing your thoughts with other benzworld members.

To answer your questions for 12 months I was working as a Military Advisor to the Iraqi Army. Currently I am working supporting Military Advisors that are mentoring, advising and providing Coalition support to Iraqi Security Forces.

My expertise, I graduated from St. John's University with a Bachelor of Arts degree in History. I then studied Criminal, International Law and Business Law and graduated Touro Law School.

I am not choosing the next leader of Iraq I am only here to discuss here on Benzworld where members are from various countries throughout the world, that can provide input and the democracy process can be a positive discussion about Iraq.

I am not recommending a Saudi Arabian government; I am suggesting a Constitutional Monarchy as in Jordan.

Jordan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Research the stability and the strength of the Jordan government and the prestige it has in the Arab and Western arena. That is a fact and it can not be disputed.

The Kingdom of Jordan has the most viable Democratic system that is not in danger or collapse, such as Lebanon.

The reason I have used Nelson Mandela and Apartheid it to show how a leader can forgive the minorities that had control of the government and oppressed the majority but when he was able to assume control of the government he led the nation to forgive the past discrimination and oppressive that was done by the minority government of South African and united all South Africans under a democracy.

The Sunni minority in Iraq controlling the nation and oppressing the Shia majority and other minorities, but now there does not seem to be a leader that is able to mend all the hearts and minds of all Iraqi people to forgive and move forward for the future of their nation.

Pertaining to your discussion on Afghanistan that is another topic I would like to discuss at a later time but let’s keep the discussion about a viable candidate that can win the support of Iraqi people and lead the nation to a healing process for the future of the Iraqi people.

Respectfully,

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Old 06-25-2007, 01:27 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Jamey....why do I get the feeling that you wouldn't be able to point to Iraq on a world map let alone claiming to be there....heh, heh.......Military Advisor....BULL! ......BA in History from St Johns.....BULL! Criminal Law.....BULL! You aren't from Nigeria by any chance, are you.....if so, then your resume makes sense!
You seem to be a fan of WIKIPEDIA.....plucking names at whim! Wait until Jakarta hears about you.....he doesn't like competition! heh, heh.....For your information, Jordan is another puppet regime greatly influenced by the UK government......check the Jordanian King's historical track record in WIKIPEDIA! heh, heh.....

Since you appear to have an impressive academic attainments, why don't you nominate yourself as the Saviour of Iraq! heh, heh....
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Jamey....why do I get the feeling that you wouldn't be able to point to Iraq on a world map let alone claiming to be there....heh, heh.......Military Advisor....BULL! ......BA in History from St Johns.....BULL! Criminal Law.....BULL! You aren't from Nigeria by any chance, are you.....if so, then your resume makes sense!
You seem to be a fan of WIKIPEDIA.....plucking names at whim! Wait until Jakarta hears about you.....he doesn't like competition! heh, heh.....For your information, Jordan is another puppet regime greatly influenced by the UK government......check the Jordanian King's historical track record in WIKIPEDIA! heh, heh.....

Since you appear to have an impressive academic attainments, why don't you nominate yourself as the Saviour of Iraq! heh, heh....
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The reason I have used Nelson Mandela and Apartheid it to show how a leader can forgive the minorities that had control of the government and oppressed the majority but when he was able to assume control of the government he led the nation to forgive the past discrimination and oppressive that was done by the minority government of South African and united all South Africans under a democracy.
I'm not sure that SA is a fair analogy.....

There you had a majority who were largely uneducated and lacked capital, and a minority who were the diametric opposite. I do not think that much 'forgiveness' has actually there occurred either.

I visited SA last year and I was struck by a feeling of deep resentment from the minority, as their jobs & culture were stealthily being taken from them.

Is it a successful nation? I think that it is too early to know the answer. Hundreds of those from European backgrounds have already moved away to the US, Canada, Australia, UK etc, as they see no future for their children in SA.
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Jamey....why do I get the feeling that you wouldn't be able to point to Iraq on a world map let alone claiming to be there....heh, heh.......Military Advisor....BULL! ......BA in History from St Johns.....BULL! Criminal Law.....BULL! You aren't from Nigeria by any chance, are you.....if so, then your resume makes sense!
You seem to be a fan of WIKIPEDIA.....plucking names at whim! Wait until Jakarta hears about you.....he doesn't like competition! heh, heh.....For your information, Jordan is another puppet regime greatly influenced by the UK government......check the Jordanian King's historical track record in WIKIPEDIA! heh, heh.....

Since you appear to have an impressive academic attainments, why don't you nominate yourself as the Saviour of Iraq! heh, heh....
Can't you have a debate without putting people down?
The dude is a Captain in the military and is serving in Iraq, yes it does not make him an authority but he's got a better insight on what's going on in that region from his angle. You got nothing but nasty remarks, grow up!
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I'm not sure that SA is a fair analogy.....

There you had a majority who were largely uneducated and lacked capital, and a minority who were the diametric opposite. I do not think that much 'forgiveness' has actually there occurred either.

I visited SA last year and I was struck by a feeling of deep resentment from the minority, as their jobs & culture were stealthily being taken from them.

Is it a successful nation? I think that it is too early to know the answer. Hundreds of those from European backgrounds have already moved away to the US, Canada, Australia, UK etc, as they see no future for their children in SA.

Agree.....SA is on the slide, political stability and economic reform on edge......people, mainly whites, leaving in flocks, many now in the UK but somehow, the economy has held but crime on the increase, economic unrest on the increase. Iraq is a totally different ball game, rules of economics cannot apply with the infrastructure totally disabled. Unfortunately, Iraq does not have a hero like Mandela as he would have been knocked off a long time ago by Saddam or his trigger happy side-kicks.......so all these nice-guys nominated by Captain James are just carpet-baggers, keen to make a personal fortune and act as puppets to the 'string controllers!'. .......heh, heh........
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WTF with this heh,heh thing?
I think a civil war is the surest path to a united Iraq. Out of this conflict, influential local leaders will rise to the occasion and lead the country and its citizenry to its destiny with the future. Heh?
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I think a civil war is the surest path to a united Iraq. Out of this conflict, influential local leaders will rise to the occasion and lead the country and its citizenry to its destiny with the future. Heh?
That is usually a natural path for such to unfold. The Iraqis will eventually find a "az-Za‘īm" (Arabic: الزعيم).
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