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Washington vs. Iraq...

Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S. involvement in Iraq, here's a sobering statistic.

There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,867 deaths.

That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.

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Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S. involvement in Iraq, here's a sobering statistic.

There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,867 deaths.

That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.
Yep. Those neo con fascist fucks are occupying Washington and are responsible for all these deaths . . .

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Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S. involvement in Iraq, here's a sobering statistic.

There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,867 deaths.

That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.

HEH, HEH....I already have folks! My lookalike is just tying up the loose-ends (mess) which I left behind......fooled the public we have folks! Hush! Keep it quiet......I don't want Blair following me to Timbuktu! heh, heh....
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What about those wounded?

"...There have been 3,826 coalition deaths -- 3,545 Americans, two Australians, 152 Britons, 13 Bulgarians, one Czech, seven Danes, two Dutch, two Estonians, one Fijian, one Hungarian, 33 Italians, one Kazakh, one Korean, three Latvian, 20 Poles, two Romanians, five Salvadoran, four Slovaks, 11 Spaniards, two Thai and 18 Ukrainians -- in the war in Iraq as of June 21, 2007, according to a CNN count...

...At least 26,129 U.S. troops have been wounded in action, according to the Pentagon..."

CNN.com - Special Reports

EDIT: Estimates of 65880 to 72165 Iraqi civillians deaths resulting from the US-led military intervention in Iraq.

Iraq Body Count

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How asinine. I see no tally for Iraqi deaths which are 10x or more of the US service people. However I'm sure the Iraqis share your viewpoint. How you slant your statistics is very telling of your perspective.

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How asinine. I see no tally for Iraqi deaths which are 10x or more of the US service people. However I'm sure the Iraqis share your viewpoint. How you slant your statistics is very telling of your perspective.
You really don't know me at all; how can you assume anything about "my perspective?"

They're not my statistics, I got it in e-mail, even assuming they were accurate then, they're obviously old.

Most of it is tongue-in-cheek; what, you never heard of sarcasm?

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You really don't know me at all; how can you assume anything about "my perspective?"

They're not my statistics, I got it in e-mail, even assuming they were accurate then, they're obviously old.

Most of it is tongue-in-cheek; what, you never heard of sarcasm?
Sorry. It's an old joke and it's my mistake that I assumed you hadn't heard it. My point about perspective stands, and I although I appreciate your sarcasm now that you have revealed it, that is the mindset of some of the neocons that frequent the site.

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Sorry. It's an old joke and it's my mistake that I assumed you hadn't heard it. My point about perspective stands, and I although I appreciate your sarcasm now that you have revealed it, that is the mindset of some of the neocons that frequent the site.
Point taken, my apologies.

At some level it's simply sad that any of the involvement in Iraq can be considered a joke, old or otherwise.

I guess in the perspective sense, the irony I see from that e-mail (that started this thread) is that with all of the violent crime, gangs, drugs, and other significant problems in D.C.'s back yard, our politicians think they need to (or can) go halfway around the world and tell some other country how to straighten out it's own problems. Sort of like if you can't keep your front yard picked up, how can you complain that the neighbor doesn't mow the grass in his back yard?

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Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S. involvement in Iraq, here's a sobering statistic.

There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,867 deaths.

That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.
Typical racist bullshit. How many Iraqis died? And how many Washingtonians were wounded?

Tell me, if you included them how could the statement "That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq." be true? Would not the statement, "if you are a person in Iraq, you are about ten times more likely to be killed by violence than you would in the most violent American city" be the real truth? And who unleashed this world of violence on these people?

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Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S. involvement in Iraq, here's a sobering statistic.

There has been a monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during the last 22 months, and a total of 2,867 deaths.

That gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.

The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons for the same period.

That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq.

Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington.
I've known that for a long time and agree that we should pull out of DC!!

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