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1. I read the report you mention but I am talking about the big systemic WHY, not individual whys.

2. On two, what trend suggests that the majority cannot separate their personal predilections against their reporting duties?

3. And as for three, that's a copout. Can you or can't you write an objective report even if you have a preexisting leaning?
1. As I said, I have no idea and as I reflect, I am no longer certain that I understand your question. Be that as it may, this looks like a wonderful opportunity to expand the field of human knowledge if you are so inclined.

2. The overwhelming majority of newsies vote and donate the Democrat Party and the news media report to the left of center. That is inductive proof of causality.

3. I doubt any one person can write analysis and fairly judge his own work. That is why every published scientist worth a poop submits his work for peer review.

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I find the overall discussion relatively pointless.

As for integrity and setting the bar as high as it can go, that standard should be imposed on politicians. We don't select reporters. We select newspapers and tv news shows. These establishments exist, especially today, to make money. They are private enterprises organized to serve their shareholders. I am more concerned about who owns all of them, or will shortly, than I am about the reporters giving away some of their earnings to political causes.

We do elect politicians. They should be scrutinized and held to meet standards of personal integrity.

As for bias, well, your whole discussion depends on a rubber yardstick to determine what is "right leaning" and what is "left leaning." The rubber yardstick makes the whole discussion nonsense. Like the question of what newspaper you read has an effect on whether you vote "left" or "right." How about if you are liberal you don't find you enjoy reading stories in the papers that make "liberal" sound like a sissy or, worse. Or if you are not a liberal you might not find a paper or news show that makes people with your opinion out to be Nazis so entertaining or enlightening?

There is also another underlying flaw to all this media bias whimpering. The word bias has a negative connotation. It is defined as "a personal and sometimes unreasoned judgement, prejudice.." in the on-line Miriam Webster's dictionary.

In this left vs. right world there is some preconceived notion that there is a natural order of things where half the time the left is correct and half the time the right is correct on an issue. I find that concept unsupported in nature. I also find the Constitution itself, in the terms of the discussion, a far left leaning document. It presumes the government, if left to its own devices, will screw the citizens and needs to be held in check, firmly, and formally. So, being an American and swearing allegiance to the Constitution is "biased" in and of itself.

I find the whole discussion unscientific, regardless of what prestigious institutions have participated in the duping of who ever paid for those studies, Bot. Even my dog rezeroes his nose by licking it when he thinks he might have caught the scent of something before he begins the chase, and takes a second or third sniff. Jim
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If to you the concept of sociological analysis of voting is without value or merit or interest, why take part in the discussion? It is a waste of time for you.

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Hey Botanist...I am very impressed with your stream of conciousness (for only 27 years of age). Would you consider writing for one of my blogs?
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If to you the concept of sociological analysis of voting is without value or merit or interest, why take part in the discussion? It is a waste of time for you.
Because I see someone selling one of those cure all elixirs from the back of his wagon to unsuspecting marks and feel it is my duty to suggest to the purveyor of this rip-off that he establish with evidence the credibility of his claims for the healing power of his hyped up potions.

By the way, voting is one thing, while reporters making political contributions is another. I thought this was about political contributions by reporters, which is the subject I find without meaning in the context it was hyped up to - as an all-telling acid test of news reporter integrity. Jim
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Hey Botanist...I am very impressed with your stream of conciousness (for only 27 years of age). Would you consider writing for one of my blogs?
I think you have those numbers reversed.

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Hey Botanist...I am very impressed with your stream of conciousness (for only 27 years of age). Would you consider writing for one of my blogs?
I was 27 more than 27 years ago. As my 89 year-old mom says, when she first awakens in the morning, inside her mind and heart she is still in her early twenties. A look in the mirror reminds her of the truth. I own a mirror just like hers, though not yet so old a mirror.

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I think you have those numbers reversed.
Damn! Sad to admit that you're number is more accurate than the other.

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