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Originally Posted by JimSmith
The target of the border security has changed again. It is now Mexicans whereas a few posts ago you were suggesting Al-Qaeda was the risk associated with loose border controls.

My point is that existing laws are not and have not been enforced. What are they? What would they accomplish? Why have they been ignored?

I think this is such an emotional issue there is little solid logical thinking involved. Anything proposed is vehemently opposed by some faction. There is a real need for compromise, and the artificial prioritization of this undefined concept of border security ahead of dealing with the existing illegal alien population is just another stall tactic.

I don't have a horse in this race - I don't live on a border state. I just think there is wide, deep, crevasse between the various points of view and a lot of denial, grasping at straws and very little technical or engineering methodology being applied. And if this continues, nothing happens, which seems to be what everyone really wants. Jim
I disagree that you don't have a horse in the race. Part of every tax dollar you give goes to either Border issues, DHS issues, Welfare issues, Unemployment issues that are part of this monster problem. What I do agree with is that there are big crevasse between the various points of view. Part of that is because so much was trying to be done in a patchwork bill that was intended to blanket a solution, not fix the problems.

If the bill were to be broken into its elements [such as Homeland Security, Amnesty, Welfare, H-1B, Border Crossing, Immigration Streamlining, Funding for State Department, States Rights in Immigration, English vs. Spanish.

But instead of opening up the discussion of all these elements, which would have been great, and looking at the pros and cons of each, allowing publicly scrutiny of every step, they [and that was both the President and Congress] chose to build a closed door Omnibus Bill and demand that it be passed with minimum debate, no amendments, additions or deletions and everyone should just trust that it was the right thing to do. Does that sound somewhat like Iraq or the Patriot Act??

Regarding the change from Middle Eastern to Mexican on my post, that post was in regards to slowing the number of JOBS that are bait for so many Mexican workers that cross the border. Tightening the border and enforcing laws against employers. That was the reason for that wording change.


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