Originally Posted by mcbear
I opposed this Frankenstein Bill, not on the issue of Amnesty, or as a fear of Mexicans coming across and taking American Jobs but on a couple of really specific issues.
First and foremost was H-1Bs. The bill introduced a doubling of the number of highly skilled folks who are allowed into the country, most who work for contract agencies and replace US technical workers who have been either laided off, fired or forced into early retirement. When jobs ARE posted, as required by law, US workers are not considered as industry wants H-1B workers since they are cheaper, require no benefits on the part of the Corporations [either no benefits or dealt with through contract agency] and position is "temporary" which allows automatic layoffs. This element alone should have been enough to stop this omnibus bill from moving forward. No more H-1Bs until the 500,000+US technical workers who have been laid off are rehired.
Second involves the enforcement of current immigration laws. Everyone who was in support of pushing this bill through said that we could just start enforcing new laws to stop illegal immigrants from coming into the country as soon as the bill became law yet we have three complete agencies that are tasked at this time to enforce strong laws who do not do so. Employers across the nation hire and hide illegal workers daily without fear that they will need to worry about LEO impeding their daily work flow by enforcement of EXISTING INS Laws that prohibit employers from hiring illegals.
Third, the border. We are one of the very few countries in the world that has a border like a sieve. In very few places can 12 Million people wander through borders unimpeded [yet I spent 20 minutes at the Niagara Falls border explaining a twin turbo system and why it just happened to be in my truck, not for nefarious reasons]. We have a border, border laws and a legitimate reason to protect those borders [National Security], It is not unreasonable for us to have been fully and completely enforcing the laws on the books for the past decade.
Regarding reasons Two and Three, how can we trust that new laws will be enforced when we have such compelling evidence that we either donâ€™t have the will or the capacity to do the job to enforce the current laws?
Fourth, we want an open government and all this bill did, from the closed door negotiation of its original writing to its â€śall or nothingâ€ť approach for passage suggests that it is just plain wrong. If the White House, Democrats and Republicans are afraid of open debate on this bill, are afraid of looking at each individual element for its merits then we have to wonder why.
To FTL's point, some of the issues dealing with existing and continuing illegal aliens from the border with Mexico could be voted on as stand alone issues. The H-1B issue is also likely not a problem that is tied to the political football of 12 million illegal aliens from Mexico and should have been dealt with separately. I somehow don't believe the authors of the bill were of the opinion that the H-1B issue would have saved it, had they merely deleted that chapter and verse. The bill failed because it was wrapped in a swiftboat wrapper of "amnesty" for illegal aliens.
I know several Europeans who have gone through the immigration process legally in the last two years. Many unnecessary complications. One guy from an Eastern European (formerly behind the iron curtain) country had to go to Canada first and then come here after becoming an Canadian citizen. This was a highly educated, technical professional. Someone we should probably want to immigrate to the US. Instead we pile up hurdles for those who will comply and ignore those who will circumvent them. Ask the Dog Whisperer; you don't train dogs to behave by rewarding behavior you want to suppress and punishing them for behavior you want to promote, so, what makes us think this process is going to work for humans?
Maybe someone will strip away the H-1B's from the bill and get something passed in another swing. Doesn't look like it. And waiting to enforce the existing laws, when no one has done it for more than two decades, if at all along the US - Mexico border, may sound wise, but it will accomplish nothing. There is something significant that prevents anyone from enforcing those laws. Could be funding and personnel, or it could be something else, like graft and special interests. But that problem has to be addressed before the laws can be enacted, and in all likelihood the laws will prove to be inappropriate. Alienating Mexico is not in our best interests. Right now Mexico could be an ally in this process, but, if we abuse 12 million of their citizens who know us best, we might make conditions to bake an enemy worse than Al-Qaeda ever thought they could be for America.