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Oh Nutz, I wish I had a proper spare rather than that little minituare doughnut they call a spare cost me an extra hour not being able to go above 80 km per hour
If you were in America you could request a full size spare at no charge if you bought the car new. It's a law or something here

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If you were in America you could request a full size spare at no charge if you bought the car new. It's a law or something here
Well 2 things on that, 1 is that the full size spare would never fit in the spare tire well and it would take up a considerable amount of space in the trunk and besides if I really want a full size spare, I would rather buy1 here rather than move away from the Land of Milk and Honey
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Michs are renowned for 'soft' sides, especially the low profile ones, this one appears to have had an encounter with the roadside kerb at low speed thus no damage to the alloy wheel.....almost looks like it has been cut with intent!
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Send the pics to Luke@tirerack.com He sponsors the tire and wheel part of this board and knows tires inside and out. And I also agree to talk to Michelin.

It almost looks like to me that you might have run over something. Could the Land of Milk and Honey now be the Land of Milk, Honey and Crap in the Road?

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Send the pics to Luke@tirerack.com He sponsors the tire and wheel part of this board and knows tires inside and out. And I also agree to talk to Michelin.

It almost looks like to me that you might have run over something. Could the Land of Milk and Honey now be the Land of Milk, Honey and Crap in the Road?

The Land of Milk and Honey has not been to keen on road up keep since Soeharto left office but when driving that quick on an Indonesian road I am pretty cautious especially when I have my wife with me which I did yesterday and I did not see anything, it was not even the roughest road I drove on yesterday.

I will followup with an email to Luke and Michelin and see what comes of it. Thanks
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Combined with the soft sidewalls a friend of mine thinks it looks more like an internal failure of the tire.

Had you curbed it at all recently?

Glad it didn't result in anything more dire than a few dollars and an interesting thread.

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Combined with the soft sidewalls a friend of mine thinks it looks more like an internal failure of the tire.

Had you curbed it at all recently?

Glad it didn't result in anything more dire than a few dollars and an interesting thread.
No, no curbing or rubbing lately, wheels are clean and the deflation was quick, air was out of that thing in a second but the car reacted as I suspected a Merc would and kept steady and true. Do not know the damage for the price of new tire yet, I will be told on Monday, I assume somewhere around 300 to 400 USD since there are heavy import duties on tires here.

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It looks like there are no threads from any belts crosswise through the failure area....
Yeah, the lack of obvious longitudinal belts in the sidewall is particularly disconcerting.

I just sold a set of '06 17" C230 rims with Michelin Pilot Primacy tires. I let someone drive the car a while back and they curbed the sidewall, taking out a chunk of the external sidewall ribbing. I'd hate to imagine that (^^^) failure event happening during one of my highly "spirited" driving sessions.
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Gentlemen,

When I gog this car there were the standard Perelli 16's on it, I got put the Michelin 18's and I did loose a little on the in traffic/town ride. But I gained alot on the toll road push the car above 150km an hour ride. My feeling was the faster I went in this car the smoother the ride got and our toll roads here when you are lucky enough to find a stretch open enough to get those speeds. Toll roads here are 30 years behind your interstates for smoothness and easiness to drive and especially the quality of the asphalt used.
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that tire was cut ... most likely by an impact. .... I defective tire would not have ripped across and through the body cords as seen in the picture. after the tire was cut down the centrifical forces, as well as all of the other extrernal forces ripped the sidewall up towards the tread cap area

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