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Benicia. It's like, San Francisco's asshole.

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Sheesh, you're right up the road from me.

I knew I felt a disturbance in the force.

You know I'm kidding, if I felt better I'd invite you to join me at a couple of my favorite places in the City.

Hope you're not stuck there too long, Benecia ain't 'zactly a fun place.
I spend my life in oil refinery towns, so I am kind of permanently stuck. Benicia is actually one of the more pleasant ones. But fun, it is not. I took a minute to try to think of one oil refinery town that is. I can't.

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I spend my life in oil refinery towns, so I am kind of permanently stuck. Benicia is actually one of the more pleasant ones. But fun, it is not. I took a minute to try to think of one oil refinery town that is. I can't.
Grew up in Point Richmond, I count getting out as fun.
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Actually, I got finished around 4 so I decided to take a drive up CA 1 and spend Saturday up in Mendecino County checking out the redwoods and the whales. This evening I ended up in Olema, just past Stinson Beach and found a charming hotel here. The drive up here from SF was fantastic, with absolutely spectacular views with a sunset that was just too incredible for words. The Olema Inn is just one big antique. No cell phone, no television, but damned if they don't have a broadband connection. Life is good tonight. I'll end up taking CA 20 in Mendecino over to 5 and then heading back down to Sacramento, which I am flying out of tomorrow night. If you can intersect anywhere in there I'd be glad to do dinner if you promise not to "pie" me. Or feel free to drop by Olema for breakfast.
You have a pretty keen eye for what's good around there...CA 1 is spectacular, I taught my ex how to drive on it.

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I spend my life in oil refinery towns, so I am kind of permanently stuck. Benicia is actually one of the more pleasant ones. But fun, it is not. I took a minute to try to think of one oil refinery town that is. I can't.
I pass by Sinclair Wyoming about 3 times a month. It is nothing but a humongous refinery in the middle of a vast wasteland. An abomination of pipes, tanks and steam during the daytime, a mecca of beautiful sparkling lights at night.......Drive by at night

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I spend my life in oil refinery towns, so I am kind of permanently stuck. Benicia is actually one of the more pleasant ones. But fun, it is not. I took a minute to try to think of one oil refinery town that is. I can't.
An Oil refinery town that is fun at night.......Balikpapan on the Kalimantan Island in Indonesia
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I pass by Sinclair Wyoming about 3 times a month. It is nothing but a humongous refinery in the middle of a vast wasteland. An abomination of pipes, tanks and steam during the daytime, a mecca of beautiful sparkling lights at night.......Drive by at night
If you want a vision of Hell drive down Texas 225 East to the coast. It will rip your throat out, blind you, and break your heart as you realize that all those smokestacks are feeding millions of pounds of poison into the massive cloud formations coming in from the Gulf that drift by, heading to your town.

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Grew up in Point Richmond, I count getting out as fun.
I thought I knew all the refinery towns. Where is that one?

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Benicia. It's like, San Francisco's asshole.

I've given everyone here the opportunity to retort "Did you see any dicks coming thru" and after waiting, had to do it myself.

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You have a pretty keen eye for what's good around there...CA 1 is spectacular, I taught my ex how to drive on it.
That's odd, because I taught my ex how to drive OFF it -- on the western side, of course.


On a related point, saw your other post, glad to hear you guys were able to connect. Jim, you live in a pretty terrific place, I went on the tour of the state park/gold mine there, was surprised you're sitting atop roughly 350 miles of tunnels -- mostly flooded.
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