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At the South Carolina GOP debate the other night, Rudy Giuliani's shrill response to Texas Congressman Ron Paul over the war in Iraq made me wonder if America's Mayor wasn't going to break down and cry right there. He's got this rep as the can-do guy who'll know what to do when trouble hits.
But when 9/11 comes up, America's Tough Guy loses it on a regular basis. He sounds more and more like one of those professional victims you see on TV, like Nancy Grace. Bring up 9/11 and Rudy tells us we can't elect a Democrat or we'll be attacked again (never mind who was in charge on 9/11). Talk Homeland Security, and he gives us Bernard Kerik, who at least looks like that bald cop on The Shield, and is apparently just as corrupt. His most recent panic attack, published here in a New York Times transcript of the event, shows a man still in recovery from 9/11.
All it took was Paul's stating the factual reasons al-Qaeda gave for attacking us, not just on 9/11, but every attack on America leading up to 9/11, to set Rudy off. We stationed our armed forces in Saudi Arabia to fight the Gulf War and kept them there for a decade after. From that, Paul drew the conclusion that we need to understand the region before we impose ourselves on it. Al-Qaeda fanaticism can't drive our foreign policy, but his point is that we need to know our enemies and the consequences of our policy in advance.
And that's when Rudy hit the panic button: "That's an extraordinary statement, as someone who lived through the attack of September 11, that we invited the attack because we were attacking Iraq. I don't think I've heard that before, and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for September 11th. (Applause. Cheers.) And I would ask the congressman to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that. (Applause.)"
Rudy, take a deep breath, the big bad man from Texas really meant it, and we all know you were there. You also misstated his comments, but a man in your nervous state doesn't always make sense. Paul not only did not take the statement back, he went further:
MR. PAUL: If we think that we can do what we want around the world and not incite hatred, then we have a problem. They don't come here to attack us because we're rich and we're free. They come and they attack us because we're over there. I mean, what would we think if we were -- if other foreign countries were doing that to us?
"Can I have 30 seconds, please?," Rudy begged the moderators, who tried to calm him down, "They are coming --".
Whose coming? Sit down Rudy, take a deep breath. Rudy got big applause that night. In a room, one should add, where all the pro-torture candidates got big rounds of applause. That Rudy never heard any of Paul's six-year-old news before, that he never read any of the Why They Hate Us pieces that came out after 9/11, is understandable. If Rudy is still too traumatized to talk about it now, to the point where he demands Paul "tell us he didn't really mean that," well, no surprise he never bothered to learn much about why his city was attacked. Rudy's still freaked about 9/11. So am I -- and I live in LA. But Rudy wants to be president. We've already got one that doesn't feel he needs to understand the region, whose response is fear-based politics and vengeance-based foreign policy, and we don't need another.
Ron Paul Goes On The Offensive In Austin
Slams rival candidates as establishment shills, attacks GOP factions who tried to bar him from debates, exposes New World Order and military-industrial complex
Paul Joseph Watson & Aaron Dykes
Monday, May 21, 2007
During a campaign stop in Austin Texas this weekend, Presidential candidate Ron Paul called for bringing home U.S. troops and an end to a welfare state that benefits only big business at the expense of the poor and the middle class, while attacking his rival candidates as establishment shills who are out of touch with the sentiment of the American people.
The Texas Congressman also slammed the New World Order, the North American Union and the move towards global government which is being implemented partly by the erosion of U.S. sovereignty and the Bush administration's suicidal immigration policy.
"I think even our first President Bush said that the New World Order was in tune and that's what they were working for. The U.N. is part of that government. They're working right now very significantly for a North American Union - that's why there are a lot of people in Washington right now who don't care too much about our borders. They have a philosophic belief that national sovereignty is not important. It's also the reason that I have made very strong suggestion that we need not be in the United Nations for our national security," Congressman Paul said.
During the event, Paul called for the troops to be brought home and chastised the Democrats for failing to offer any alternatives for the catastrophe in Iraq.
"As a physician, I was always taught, if you give the wrong diagnosis, the wrong treatment, just doing more of the same does nothing to help the patient," Paul said.
The Congressman cited the legacy of the founding fathers in warning against becoming involved in foreign entanglements.
"The founders were absolutely right on this issue-- that if you talk with people and make friends with people and trade with people, we're much better off than trying to impose our will on them," said Paul.
"This actually did not start with this administration nor the previous administration. This has been smoldering for about 100 years. It was Woodrow Wilson that said 'We as Americans will make the world safe for democracy.' And look what's happened since World War I," added the Congressman.
The presidential candidate also laughed off the suggestion from Neo-Cons that he should have run as a Democrat, citing his record as the most conservative member of the House as an example of how warped the partisan political spectrum had become.
The Congressman found it telling that some factions of the GOP were trying to bar the most Constitutional-orientated candidate from even taking part in future televised debates. This followed a move which was later dropped on behalf of the Michigan branch of the Republican Party to bar Paul from future events.
"Isn't it interesting that the establishment figures that the one who most defends the Constitution has to be eliminated from the debates - what's going on in this country?" asked Paul.
Elaborating, Paul attacked his rival candidates for being establishment shills with policies sympathetic only to the elite and contrary to the sentiment of the majority of American citizens, adding that they had only "dug themselves into a hole" by refusing to acknowledge the fact that 70% oppose the war.
The Congressman also sounded off on the welfare state, stating that while some welfare, mostly crumbs, goes to the poor, most welfare actually goes to "the military industrial complex and to bankers," a problem he would address as President.
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