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I have a sneaking suspicion he is not W's boy at all but Dick's. And what does 1 get for "breathtaking incompetence and being an "architect of mass murder" Does a trophy come with that or the Medal of Freedom or what?
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I believe they name a wing of the Bush library after him.
It will surely be the right wing as the name for the left wing has already been chosen, it will be called "Feel The Love" where a photo tribute to W and Dick and all of their accomplishments will be displayed.
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Ok everyone...it's me, I know...I'm mad and I still carry a grudge. I live 16 miles from ground zero, lost 1 golf partner, another 12 acquaintences that I had either coached their kids, or stood on the sidelines with them. I walk down 7th Avenue every work day from 33rd to 26th street, the Towers no longer stand like a backstop or dead end to 7th as they used to. I still have an American flag outside my house, I still wear a flag lapel pin. We were attacked....We have an enemy who will stop at nothing..nothing! Does anyone really believe they will? Does anyone have a better solution.....we tried pacification/political correctness for the last 20 years (yes, Reagan was a republican) . Why do we think its going to work now.
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Ok everyone...it's me, I know...I'm mad and I still carry a grudge. I live 16 miles from ground zero, lost 1 golf partner, another 12 acquaintences that I had either coached their kids, or stood on the sidelines with them. I walk down 7th Avenue every work day from 33rd to 26th street, the Towers no longer stand like a backstop or dead end to 7th as they used to. I still have an American flag outside my house, I still wear a flag lapel pin. We were attacked....We have an enemy who will stop at nothing..nothing! Does anyone really believe they will? Does anyone have a better solution.....we tried pacification/political correctness for the last 20 years (yes, Reagan was a republican) . Why do we think its going to work now.
OK i understand and agree with your posistion but to say the US did everything PC for the past 20 years is just wrong from a Muslim/Arab point of view. For the record I am a very liberal pork eating American Muslim.
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Ok everyone...it's me, I know...I'm mad and I still carry a grudge. I live 16 miles from ground zero, lost 1 golf partner, another 12 acquaintences that I had either coached their kids, or stood on the sidelines with them. I walk down 7th Avenue every work day from 33rd to 26th street, the Towers no longer stand like a backstop or dead end to 7th as they used to. I still have an American flag outside my house, I still wear a flag lapel pin. We were attacked....We have an enemy who will stop at nothing..nothing! Does anyone really believe they will? Does anyone have a better solution.....we tried pacification/political correctness for the last 20 years (yes, Reagan was a republican) . Why do we think its going to work now.
Then why would you want to defend an administration that started a war with a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack rather than pursue and kill our attackers?

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You live in Jakarta? What do you do on the 4th Of July over there as an American. Are you able to celebrate 200+ years of Independence and Religious freedom? You must get homesick for that..?
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You live in Jakarta? What do you do on the 4th Of July over there as an American. Are you able to celebrate 200+ years of Independence and Religious freedom? You must get homesick for that..?
I have lived here in Jakarta for 18 years and 3 years before that in Bangkok and beofre that a year in Singapore, 6 months or so in South Korea as well as a year in Malaysia. Have not been back to the States in 20+ years and do not miss the States at all. Married to a lovely Indonesian girl and happy as hell here. To some on the BWOT I am the Anti-Christ others have figured me out quite well. Homesick, not at all.
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Sure...just remember...these are all being run out by the media. pretty soon Pelosi and pals will have the whole thing.....I hope you are ready for that. Higher taxes, economic stagnation, and finally, a new found fear of security.
Higher taxes were going to have to come anyway to deal with Bush's Deficit Spending bills which are now due and all the Social Security and Medicare issues that are coming due to the aging boomers so that is a wash, no matter who is in the white house. Add in infrastructure issues such as our Air Traffic Control and Bridges and Roads systems that have “postponed maintenance” and a rebuilding of our National Guard system to both replenish it and to fund it to convince people to want to join and our tax burden just got heaver, Democrat or Republican.

Economic stagnation? Hard to tell, we have been moving from a Manufacturing to Service based economy for the past 20 years. Looking at the deflated Housing market, Manufacturing offshored, churn in jobs [10Million lost, 9Million gained in the past 6 years] Layoffs in ALL major sectors from Banking to IT to Services and even Walmart showing signs of stumbling in Q42006. Add in the RECORD Trade Deficit -$5Trillion in the past 6 years and the DOLLAR at its worst levels against foreign currencies EVER and it looks to me like, with the exception of the Stock Market churn we already have all the fixings of Economic stagnation, all with a Republican House, Senate and Administration.

Security? Apparently going in a country that did not have Al Qeada and blowing the shit out of it until it now DOES have Al Qeada is not working so well. Maybe a different approach [read that as smarter] would be welcomed.

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