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Why am I seeing armadillo roadkill 100 miles south of St. Louis?

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Perhaps the truth would be better.
Something you might want to consider FoTL............. Do you even know what that is?

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Give me a fucking break, Bruce, the lies you have to believe to be a Republican today are astounding. Lets list a couple:

The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest
national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

You're against big government

Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.

Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guywhen Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with
China and Vietnam is vital to free trade.

A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting the bodies and organs of all mankind without regulation, especially when it comes to spewing massive amounts of pollution that affects our health, against our will.

Jesus loves you and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary
Clinton.

The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in flowery
speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and putting the wounded in shit covered hospitals.

If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then
demand their cooperation and money.

Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health
care to all Americans is socialism.

A president lying about a blow job is a impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is no big deal.

Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need our prayers for
your recovery.

When hunters shoot their friends in the face, it is the fault of the guy who got shot.

Fox News is "fair and balanced."

The nation's 8-year prosperity is due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but gas prices, unprecedented federal deficits (largest in history), increasing inflation, lack of god high paying jobs, increased poverty, increased insurance costs, and all the deaths in Iraq are all Bill Clinton's fault.

Tax breaks for the wealthy that take away child credits for the poor is going to make poor people go away and make us all rich.

We must have prayer in the public schools, as long as you don't pray to Allah or Buddha, but Scientology and “Mooneys” are fine as long as they are big donors to the Republican Party.

Biology teachers are corrupting the morals of 6th graders if they teach them the basics of human sexuality, but the Old Testament, which is full of sex and violence, is good reading at any age, and should be taught in school.

George Bush has "character" in spite of his years of cocaine abuse and alcoholism, and his continuing problem with telling the truth about just about anything.

And of course, the whopper: George was really telling the truth about Weapons of Mass Destruction. They were smuggled to Syria by the Russians!

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Why am I seeing armadillo roadkill 100 miles south of St. Louis?
Should the Virginia opossum form vigilante border patrols? Perhaps they can build a wall along the Rio Grande to halt the illegal immigration of the 9 band armadillo.



Armadillos — coming soon to a place near you?

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The nine-banded armadillo (D. novemcinctus) has the widest distribution of any armadillo species. Only two armadillo species occur outside of South America — the nine-banded armadillo and the northern naked-tailed armadillo (Cabassous centralis). C. centralis may be found in Central America as far north as the extreme southern boundary of Mexico. The nine-banded armadillo has expanded its range northward into the United States over the last 150 years. Prior to about 1850, the nine-banded armadillo was not found north of the Rio Grande river. The sudden and extremely rapid armadillo colonization of the southern United States has puzzled quite a few biologists. The degree of range expansion per year is nearly ten times faster than the average rate expected for a mammal. Sightings of the animals farther north are reported every year, prompting many people to wonder just how far north the armadillo will go.

Where did the armadillos come from?
The Xenarthrans (sloths, anteaters and armadillos) originated in South America. Many mammals migrated into North America across the newly-formed Panamanian land bridge about 3 million years ago. About half of the animals moving north were Xenarthrans. Giant ground sloths and glyptodonts, among others, migrated into the open plains of North America. All of these first Xenarthran migrants into the modern United States were extinct by about 10,000 years ago. The beautiful armadillo (Dasypus bellus) was the last member of the genus Dasypus to live in North America. D. bellus ranged as far north as Missouri, Iowa and Nebraska prior to its extinction around 11,000 years ago. (See the Illinois State Museum web site for more information on the beautiful armadillo). For several thousand years, there were no armadillos in the present-day United States. The majority of the Xenarthran species continue to be limited to South and Central America to this day.

Why is the armadillo moving north again?
The nine-banded armadillo’s remarkable invasion of the United States appears to be due to a combination of factors. Large rivers, hunting by humans, and unsuitable habitat probably contributed to the scarcity of armadillos in the US prior to 1850:

Although armadillos are good swimmers, the Rio Grande is a formidable barrier. Large rivers such as the Mississippi continue to deter or delay expansion in some areas of the US. It is likely that very few animals will attempt to cross such large rivers.

In many parts of South and Central America, armadillos are a valuable food source. Overhunting has threatened many species. The hunting practices of native peoples of northern Mexico and southern Texas probably limited the number of armadillos in the area.

Nine-banded armadillos live in a variety of habitats, but prefer brushy or forested areas which provide lots of cover. Due to yearly burnoffs (both natural fires and those started by humans) Texas was largely covered by prarie grasses.

With the mass colonization of Texas by American settlers in the late 1800’s, these physical, societal and ecological barriers to armadillo expansion were reduced or removed. Increased travel across the Rio Grande resulted in more armadillos moving across the river. Suppression of Native American culture reduced hunting pressure on the armadillo, and the halting of yearly prarie fires allowed more mesquite brushland to invade the open grasslands. The majority of the animals were probably brought across the Rio Grande by humans as a food source. Animals that attempted to swim across were not more successful than previous armadillos in swimming, but were lucky enough to find a more suitable habitat. Decreased hunting pressure allowed the armadillo population to increase on both sides of the river, resulting in a larger population base. Armadillos do not tend to move from the area they are born in unless the population is high. The advancement of American settlers and farming practices allowed the armadillos to invade the United States. Colonization of other states was helped by the deliberate or accidental release of captive animals. The Florida armadillo population, for example, was the result of a few animals released from a small zoo in 1924, combined with several more that escaped from a traveling circus in 1936. Movement of cattle from Texas to other states by railway also helped the armadillo. There are several reports stating that stowaway armadillos were fairly common in cattle cars. The armadillos would often escape when the cars were unloaded. The regular production of identical quadruplets, as well as the ability to delay implantation of fertilized eggs for 14 months or more give the nine-banded armadillo a high reproductive rate. Life spans of up to twenty years, coupled with the reproductive success of the animals, means that it only takes a small number of armadillos to successfully establish stable populations in new areas.

How far north will the armadillo go?
Armadillo expansion into the United States appears to be limited primarily by temperature and rainfall. Armadillos have very little body fat, and are not good at conserving heat. Long periods of extremely cold weather are dangerous, especially to younger animals. Armadillos cannot establish stable colonies if the average January temperature is below -2°C (28°F). They also require a constant source of water. Estimates indicate that armadillos can survive in areas that receive at least 38 cm (15 inches) of precipitation annually. Comparing this information with annual weather and rainfall data for the United States, Taulman and Robbins generated a potential range map for the nine-banded armadillo. They estimate that the nine-banded armadillo could establish stable populations from Nebraska to New York, and northeast to Cape Cod. Although physiological barriers prevent the armadillo from moving farther west on its own, human introductions (accidental or otherwise) could establish populations in parts of Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico. Animals released on the west coast could range from California to Washington and into parts of Canada. Regions of eastern Washington and Oregon, and part of northwest Idaho could also support armadillo populations. The published range of the armadillo in 1997 suggested that only about half of the potential armadillo habitat is currently colonized by the nine-banded armadillo. The map above illustrates the current range of the nine-banded armadillo (as of 1995), as well as the estimated potential future range.

Does this mean we will see armadillos in New York’s Central Park? Armadillos digging up the potato fields in Idaho? Armadillos sipping coffee in Seattle? Armadillos riding the streetcars in San Francisco? Enjoying the seashore in Massachusetts? Perhaps some Canadian armadillos in Vancouver, eh? Only time will tell! If you live in one of the areas targeted for armadillo invasion, keep your eyes open for invading armadillos. Report sightings to your local wildlife officials to help keep range data current. If you don’t think that armadillos will ever make it in your neck of the woods, keep in mind that another South American mammal, the Virginia opossum, successfully invaded the United States despite the cold winters and physical barriers to range expansion. For the nine-banded armadillo, it looks like it’s Canada or bust!

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Give me a fucking break, Bruce, the lies you have to believe to be a Republican today are astounding. Lets list a couple:
Holy Shit. That list is startling. I'm dead serious. Do you keep it written down somewhere, or was that off the top of your head, or what? If I was carrying around an emotional investment that was being devalued in that many different ways, I'd be pissed all the time too.

I hope that's not something you keep in your wallet...I hope it took a long time to write it up. Otherwise, right or wrong, it's safe to say that you've tied your happiness too tightly to all sorts of things which are completely outside your sphere of influence. That's simply not healthy. You're going to go crazy, or die, or both, and soon, if that's the case.

There were only a couple of items on that list which have marginal validity. Otherwise, it's a very succinct and accurate summation of my discontent with the GOP's Partyjacking since 2000.
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Give me a fucking break, Bruce, the lies you have to believe to be a Republican today are astounding. Lets list a couple:

The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest
national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

You're against big government

Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.

Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guywhen Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with
China and Vietnam is vital to free trade.

A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting the bodies and organs of all mankind without regulation, especially when it comes to spewing massive amounts of pollution that affects our health, against our will.

Jesus loves you and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary
Clinton.

The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in flowery
speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and putting the wounded in shit covered hospitals.

If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then
demand their cooperation and money.

Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health
care to all Americans is socialism.

A president lying about a blow job is a impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is no big deal.

Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need our prayers for
your recovery.

When hunters shoot their friends in the face, it is the fault of the guy who got shot.

Fox News is "fair and balanced."

The nation's 8-year prosperity is due to the work of Ronald Reagan and George Bush, but gas prices, unprecedented federal deficits (largest in history), increasing inflation, lack of god high paying jobs, increased poverty, increased insurance costs, and all the deaths in Iraq are all Bill Clinton's fault.

Tax breaks for the wealthy that take away child credits for the poor is going to make poor people go away and make us all rich.

We must have prayer in the public schools, as long as you don't pray to Allah or Buddha, but Scientology and “Mooneys” are fine as long as they are big donors to the Republican Party.

Biology teachers are corrupting the morals of 6th graders if they teach them the basics of human sexuality, but the Old Testament, which is full of sex and violence, is good reading at any age, and should be taught in school.

George Bush has "character" in spite of his years of cocaine abuse and alcoholism, and his continuing problem with telling the truth about just about anything.

And of course, the whopper: George was really telling the truth about Weapons of Mass Destruction. They were smuggled to Syria by the Russians!
Let's add one more to the lies you seem to think I believe:
FoTL has a clue, and is a fully rational thinking human being.

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Why am I seeing armadillo roadkill 100 miles south of St. Louis?
The local extension service, made up of biologists and farmers, contend they're following the fireants, which the fire ant larvae is one of their diets. BUT, as they move northward, they're finding other foods much less troublesome, abundant and tasteful, so they are pretty much leaving these forsaken ants alone for us to contend with. It's not uncommon to find holes around your flower beds where these 'possums on the half shell' have dug grubs and other insects out of the ground.

I've always wanted to put my boots on and find one, then kick the waylaying shit out of him to watch him sull up and roll into a ball. Then I'd throw him around until I tired of it.

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I’m still going with the guy who blamed global warming on the farting cows in the mid west. At least, I can understand what he is attempting to say.
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I’m still going with the guy who blamed global warming on the farting cows in the mid west. At least, I can understand what he is attempting to say.
Eat more beef! A couple hundred pounds of beef in your freezer is one less cow stinking up the place. Tasty, too!

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