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That's one of the nicest things you've ever said to me old pal-I'm fillin' up (not with gas though).

And by the way, as usual you have your facts wrong even on subjects in which you purport to be expert.

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When at his Last Supper Jesus said: "This is my body", what he held in his hands still had all the appearances of bread: these "accidents" remained unchanged. However, the Roman Catholic Church believes that, when Jesus made that declaration,[1] the underlying reality (the "substance") of the bread was converted tWhen at his Last Supper Jesus said: "This is my body", what he held in his hands still had all the appearances of bread: these "accidents" remained unchanged. However, the Roman Catholic Church believes that, when Jesus made that declaration,[1] the underlying reality (the "substance") of the bread was converted to that of his body. In other words, it actually was his body, while all the appearances open to the senses or to scientific investigation were still those of bread, exactly as before. The Church holds that the same change of the substance of the bread and of the wine occurs at the consecration of the Eucharisto that of his body. In other words, it actually was his body, while all the appearances open to the senses or to scientific investigation were still those of bread, exactly as before. The Church holds that the same change of the substance of the bread and of the wine occurs at the consecration of the Eucharist
Since when did Roman Catholics have anything to do with Christianity?

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Since when did Roman Catholics have anything to do with Christianity?
Yeah, the wrong sort of Christianity just won't do!

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Yeah, the wrong sort of Christianity just won't do!
I think that's sort of my point, at least to the extent I had one. I won't profess any significant knowledge of Catholicism, from my exposure it mostly seems to be concerned with the whole liturgical thing of when do we stand, when do we sit, when do we kneel, when do we repeat something we memorized meaninglessly x-odd years ago, when do we have some old guy spill grape juice (oh, excuse me, blood) all over us, etc. I've been in a lot of churches in my day, couldn't figure out that one or the "Christian Orthodox" one a friend of mine hauled me to.

Who is that scary dude in the picture, anyway? I couldn't even stand to repost it here.

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^^^^^^

"Who is that scary dude in the picture, anyway? I couldn't even stand to repost it here. "

Let's just say he was keen on his chopper, in more ways than one and as a result the monastries dissolved and the Anglican church was conceived for everyone's convenience.
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There is no reality, there is only perception. Genetics exists to the extent that we're able to experience and perceive it. Run time backwards, better yet -- stop it altogether, then tell me how genetics plays out.

Reality is a matter of perception, evidence and probabilities. You can't prove anything with absolute certainty.
You are in disagreement with Christian Creationists in method, not substance.

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^^^^^^

I'm uncertain, but I think Ron is desperate to quantify his position.

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And you are suffering from intracranial ergot depletion. You seem very quick to discard the importance of evidence, perhaps an ergot infusion will remedy the situation.

Now prove that your reality is the only reality.

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My reality is the only relevant reality. Do I really need to prove that?
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I'm uncertain, but I think Ron is desperate to quantify his position.
At least someone gets it.

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