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post #91 of 127 (permalink) Old 05-01-2007, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
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I think this forum user said it best as to why he should NOT attend:

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I've seen this "not attending funerals" run around for a spell now and it got me to wondering.

Should he?

I've decided, no, he shouldn't.

It would detract from the purpose of the funeral. It would turn the funeral into a media event. It would draw the focus from its rightful place, the deceased and their grieving family.

I've been to funerals where some bigwig comes, maybe for the right reasons, maybe not. But in all cases it altered the solemnity and focus of the occassion. And there is no re-do for these moments.

Funerals are private moments for famly and friends. Outsiders don't belong no matter how important they are.

And, seriously, if Bush attended a single funeral, wouldn't there be many who would howl as they do now about the "PR stunt" it was?

I know that, were I a grieving widow, I would not appreciate some outsider crashing my husband's funeral.

Best to let the dead and the grieving have their ceremony unburdened by a presidential visit.

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Now that I've politely answered your question more than once, now it's your turn.
What good do you think it would do for the families of fallen soldiers to have the President attend their loved one's funeral? Think it through before you answer.

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I think attending funerals achieve a national purpose. Perhaps this minor example will illustrate, this little known tidbit from a funeral for 25,000 men:

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.


But you are right, Bush would never be capable of anything like that, so best let him stay home and work on his next "Mission Accomplished" or "Yellowcake from Africa" speech.
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Wait, I know this joke.

Again I ask the question: WHY DOESN'T THE PRESIDENT ATTEND ANY FUNERALS OF FALLEN SOLDIERS? WHY DOES HE NOT PERSONNALLY ATTEND ONE THESE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS WILL BE PROTESTING AT, Assholes.
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What are you? FTL x 2? You must be proud!

I least I always know where FTL stands, but w/ you I never know except that you will be NEGATIVE!
It's a fair question. Why do questions connatate so negatively for you? Do the answers scare you?

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When did he ever run as a Republican? When did he ever identify as a Republican? You and FTFL are the only ones professing them to be Republicans. So you're saying that a person rejected by Democrat voters is a Republican? With that reasoning, I guess Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro are all Republicans. You can spin it all you want but Pasture Phelps is a registered Democrat. It really stings when false hoods come back to bite you guys in the ass, does it not?

I never said he was a republican. I don't recall any qualification requirements for anyone to register as a Democrat, though. So, the fact that he registered and got some other nuts to register and sign his petition to run for office says nothing about him being a Democratic Party "member" and, the fact that he lost every time he ran would refute the idea that the Democratic Party accepted and supported him.

On the other hand, it seems more than plausible that Karl "brown baby" Rove might take this Republican Party Platform pillar of support and try to use him to infiltrate the Democratic Party. Afterall he seems to be entirely dedicated to promoting the principe plank, hating gays, of the Republican Party. Which is not a Democratic Party initiative at all.

So, by his politics he is closer to an effervescent supporter of the Republican National Political Agenda than anything in the Democractic Party's Platform, anywhere. Makes him a kind of Republican to me. A Karl Rove/Gahan Wilson creation, but Republican nonetheless. Jim
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What are you? FTL x 2? You must be proud!

I least I always know where FTL stands, but w/ you I never know except that you will be NEGATIVE!
Reread my post. I was posting up the punchline for the old joke. Put it in its more original form.

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Debutante 2: I was raised where you don't end a sentence in a preposition.

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I never said he was a republican. I don't recall any qualification requirements for anyone to register as a Democrat, though. So, the fact that he registered and got some other nuts to register and sign his petition to run for office says nothing about him being a Democratic Party "member" and, the fact that he lost every time he ran would refute the idea that the Democratic Party accepted and supported him.

On the other hand, it seems more than plausible that Karl "brown baby" Rove might take this Republican Party Platform pillar of support and try to use him to infiltrate the Democratic Party. Afterall he seems to be entirely dedicated to promoting the principe plank, hating gays, of the Republican Party. Which is not a Democratic Party initiative at all.

So, by his politics he is closer to an effervescent supporter of the Republican National Political Agenda than anything in the Democractic Party's Platform, anywhere. Makes him a kind of Republican to me. A Karl Rove/Gahan Wilson creation, but Republican nonetheless. Jim
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Why? You and Phelps having a hard time swimming together?
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