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Muslims believe US seeks to undermine Islam

Muslims believe US seeks to undermine Islam
* Only 3 percent of Pakistanis think Al Qaeda conducted 9/11 attacks

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LAHORE: An in-depth poll of major Muslim countries has found that in all of them large majorities believe that undermining Islam is a key goal of US foreign policy.

The poll, conducted in Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan, and Indonesia from December 2006 to February 2007 by WorldPublicOpinion.org with support from the START Consortium at the University of Maryland, also found that many Muslims approve of attacks on US troops in the Middle East.

Large majorities (average 79%) across all four countries believe the United States seeks to “weaken and divide the Islamic world”, ranging from 73 percent in Indonesia and Pakistan to 92 percent in Egypt. Equally large numbers perceive that the US is trying to maintain “control over the oil resources of the Middle East” (average 79%). Strong majorities (average 64%) also believe it is a US goal to “spread Christianity in the region”.

“While US leaders may frame the conflict as a war on terrorism, people in the Islamic world clearly perceive the US as being at war with Islam,” said Steven Kull, editor of WorldPublicOpinion.org.

Large majorities in all countries (average 74%) support the goal of getting the US to “remove its bases and military forces from all Islamic countries”.

Substantial numbers also favour attacks on US troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and in the Persian Gulf. Approximately half of respondents support such attacks, while three in ten are opposed. But there is substantial variation between countries. Pakistanis are divided about attacks on the American military - many do not answer or express mixed feelings.

However, respondents roundly reject attacks on civilians. Most Indonesians (84%), Pakistanis (81%) and Egyptians (77%) say such violence cannot be justified “at all”.

Attitudes toward Al Qaeda are complex. On average, only three in ten view Osama Bin Laden positively. There is strong disapproval of attacks by “groups that use violence against civilians, such as Al Qaeda”. Large majorities in Egypt (88%), Indonesia (65%) and Morocco (66%) agree that such groups “are violating the principles of Islam.” Pakistanis are divided, however, with many not answering.

But there is also uncertainty about whether Al Qaeda actually conducts such attacks. Only 3 percent of Pakistanis think Al Qaeda conducted the September 11 attacks.

There is strong support for enhancing the role of Islam in all of the countries polled, through such measures as the imposition of Sharia. This does not mean that they want to isolate their societies from outside influences: Most view globalisation positively and favour democracy and freedom of religion.

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
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Well, 9/11, the USS Cole, the Berlin nightclub bombing, Leon Klinghofer, the Beirut Marines bombing, etc etc certainly suggests to a lot of westerners that elements of "Islam" is waging the war against the West, or Christianity.

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I believe the report, I see it here in Indonesia as well. There are some of these hardcore Muslims that beleive when these so called Holy Men tell them that the culprits of 9/11 was the Americans and the Jews. The hardcore ones believe this crap and so it born another Muslim that hates the West.
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If we took a poll of US religious kooks and far right wing jingoists, we would get the same answer on Islam. In fact, we even have a thread on this forum, "The War with Islam", to prove it.

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If we took a poll of US religious kooks and far right wing jingoists, we would get the same answer on Islam. In fact, we even have a thread on this forum, "The War with Islam", to prove it.
Which category did you fall in to, the US religous kook or the far right wing jingoists?
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Since many commentators and scholars agree that the ultimate goal of Islam is the undermining (elimination) of other religions (and sometimes the elimination of other divisions of their own religion) I would have to say that the Daily News article reflects an old truism: The best offense is a good defense.

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