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Y'know, were we like the old west (at least the one they showed on TV where everyone was openly packing), that dipshit likely wouldn't have gotten his gun outta his holster before he was provided with a buttload of new orifices filled with lead. Of course, there's a downside or two to that . . .

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There are 48,000 thefts of firearms per year. Add those to the number of weapons that cannot and would not be turned in or registered and you STILL only have a system that caters to those who already obey the laws of the land.

Registration is a nice concept that, going forward from a decade ago captures all the same information that is currently captured each and every time you buy a firearm today. Every firearm has a federal form attached to it. It, the firearm and the owner are attached in a database along with the background check. TODAY.

You will still not get gangs, drug trade, illegals, organized crime, Libertarians, or mentally unstable [depressed, bi-polar] gun owners in the system which means that the group that you NEED in the system will not be there. The group that you need not worry about will be there filling up buildings full of filing cabinets.

When you add conditions such as psychological evaluation, references, etc you start getting into the old Jim Crow issues where permits start being issued to those who “deserve” it, not based on purely objective criteria but now adding potential politics, potential racism, and a plethora of other gates, all for those who are statistically projected to be fully law abiding with their gun ownership [if 99.999% can be considered a fair assessment of the projection].

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Y'know, were we like the old west (at least the one they showed on TV where everyone was openly packing), that dipshit likely wouldn't have gotten his gun outta his holster before he was provided with a buttload of new orifices filled with lead. Of course, there's a downside or two to that . . .
When many of my friends used to give me shit about gun ownership I had a little parlor game that I liked to ask them to think about.

The object is to think like the bad guy. You have decided to breakin to a house for what ever reason [rape, robbery, murder, shit on the bed]. There are three houses.

Part1
All three houses have a sign that say NO WEAPONS

Which house is the bad guy likely to enter?

Part2
All three houses have a sign that say HOUSE PROTECTED w/WEAPONS

Which house, if any, is the bad guy likely to enter?

Part3
The houses have mixed signs

The first house has a sign that says NO WEAPONS
The second house has a sign that says HOME PROTECTED w/WEAPONS
The third house does not have a sign.

Which house is the bad guy likely to enter?

Part4
Knowing an entire neighborhood MIGHT be PROTECTED w/WEAPONS

No houses have signs, which house, if any is the bad guy likely to enter?

When you require registration you require a paper trail that MIGHT help our bad guy make his decision. Since the vast majority of weapons are used for personal protection the folks seeking protection do not need that information out. IF YOU THINK THAT IS A PARANOID THOUGHT, just check the 18 year old at the local sporting goods store that is in charge of the box that keeps the store's copies of the Federal forms and the ammo register. How well do you trust him?

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There are 48,000 thefts of firearms per year. Add those to the number of weapons that cannot and would not be turned in or registered and you STILL only have a system that caters to those who already obey the laws of the land.
I'm not sure if you are aware of it or not, but there are (were) some firearms manufacturers that actually ship, or at least used to ship, extra guns when they sent out an order. The extra guns were to make up for the losses incured during shipment, in other words, they shipped more guns because they knew some were going to be stolen enroute............

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That is why I think insurance requirements is so important. I would be fine with an exemption from insurance charges for flintlocks and matchlock pistols in order to totally fulfill the Constitution's demand that the right not be infringed, as that right was seen at the time. If you own a blunderbuss, its on us. If you own a handgun, I would think a hundred a month insurance would be about right. If you own a Kentucky Long Rifle, you can skip the trip to the shrink. Anything more than that, your head must be examined before you can have a license to own one.

As the lethality and power of the weapons increase, the rates should increase. Money from the insurance would be held for the victims of the owners of these senseless weapons.
And just where would that nonsense put YOU?
I'm guessing probably in some Ha Ha Hotel under guard.............. It's a damn sure cinch you would have the weapons that you claim to have, unless you got them illegally somehow............ Now that couldn't be could it? The righteous Mr. FoTL getting weapons illegally and preaching to others how wrong it is.

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