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I'm sure they have -- that's my point. While there is some small chance this was an act of ignorant negligence as asserted, it was almost certainly a wanton criminal act.
Didn't Al Sharpton say roughly the same thing about those Duke LaCrosse Players last year? What has happened in the US with the "innocent before proven guilty"?
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Didn't Al Sharpton say roughly the same thing about those Duke LaCrosse Players last year? What has happened in the US with the "innocent before proven guilty"?
Looks like Waxman will be getting to that.

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Didn't Al Sharpton say roughly the same thing about those Duke LaCrosse Players last year? What has happened in the US with the "innocent before proven guilty"?

Ask your friends down in Gitmo.
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Didn't Al Sharpton say roughly the same thing about those Duke LaCrosse Players last year? What has happened in the US with the "innocent before proven guilty"?
Let me help you out here by pointing out the obvious. Anyone with half a brain knew with certainty that the WH was never going to make those email messages available to the oversight committee. While you may personally be shocked and awed by this development, Americans saw it coming a mile away.

So unless you can say that tens of millions of Americans predicted the Duke fake rape fiasco before the party occurred, your analogy is just as absurd as it sounds.

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Ask your friends down in Gitmo.
Those fellas in Gitmo are on a long well deserved holiday and are being looked after very well thanks to your many tax dollars. The Muslims wish to thank you for their peaceful period so that they can search for the true meaning of Islam.
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Let me help you out here by pointing out the obvious. Anyone with half a brain knew with certainty that the WH was never going to make those email messages available to the oversight committee. While you may personally be shocked and awed by this development, Americans saw it coming a mile away.
Just point me in the direction preferable a realiable website/s where there were so many Americans documenting the so called obvious, if no proof, what you are saying is just crap, unless you are Carnac the Magnificent.
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Perhaps your strong suit is Indonesian politics...

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Perhaps your strong suit is Indonesian politics...
Well could be but then you are no Carnac and you are not magnificent no matter what your mother tells you. But you do resemble Al Sharpton in the guilty verdict before the trial.
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Those fellas in Gitmo are on a long well deserved holiday and are being looked after very well thanks to your many tax dollars. The Muslims wish to thank you for their peaceful period so that they can search for the true meaning of Islam.
Ok, wait, so they're guilty, but they've never been charged let alone tried, right? How does that jibe with your original question? Oh, I get it, you asked "What has happened in the US with the "innocent before proven guilty?"-- and Gitmo is outside the US. Sheesh, you're pretty tricky. Ya got me. Whatever will I do with all this egg on my face? [blushes]
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