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Presenting logic and reason is your burden as well, cop out face. If the opposing party cannot argue with logic and reason, point it out.
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While it would simply be too extreme to characterize the administration as outright fascist, per se, there is and has been a decidedly fascist bent to the Bush administration -- inventing enemies, GWOT, the curtailment of individual freedoms, the aggressive suppression of opposition and criticism, aggressive nationalism, and the seizure of near absolute authority over this country for six years stand as examples.
Also illegal wire tapping, the Patriot Act, suspension of habeus corpus, loosening the rules for eminent domain, no access to legal counsel while being detained as an enemy combatant, National Security Letters, etc. It's truly sad how the Constitution has been shredded to pieces.

There was a rather eloquent article on MSN.com a few weeks ago about how the Bill of Rights has been pared down to just one right. Although it was tongue-in-cheek, it described quite intelligently how we as Americans are no longer as free as we once were. If I can find the link again, I'll post it.
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If you pay attention to Hillary and Obama's voting records, you know their true politics. But apparently you get all your news from Air America and CNN. Anyone who pays attention to politics knows that especially around election times, candidates tend to sway their rhetoric towards the middle of the political spectrum. What they say doesn't always correlate with what they believe.

But your past few posts have shown that no matter what I say, you're going to twist it and make it sound like I'm saying something completely different. I run into people like you from time to time, and honestly it's not worth my time to argue with you because your mind is so closed to logic and reason.
Right. Present their voting records then. Clearly moderate to corporate, especially Hillary. If you want to use reason and logic to bolster your arguments, now would be a good time to start. Opinions presented as fact seem to be a hallmark of the right wing these days, and you seem to be no exception.

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Also illegal wire tapping, the Patriot Act, suspension of habeus corpus, loosening the rules for eminent domain, no access to legal counsel while being detained as an enemy combatant, National Security Letters, etc. It's truly sad how the Constitution has been shredded to pieces.

There was a rather eloquent article on MSN.com a few weeks ago about how the Bill of Rights has been pared down to just one right. Although it was tongue-in-cheek, it described quite intelligently how we as Americans are no longer as free as we once were. If I can find the link again, I'll post it.
Nice summation. I thought you were a 9 on your scale of 1-10.

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If you pay attention to Hillary and Obama's voting records, you know their true politics. But apparently you get all your news from Air America and CNN. Anyone who pays attention to politics knows that especially around election times, candidates tend to sway their rhetoric towards the middle of the political spectrum. What they say doesn't always correlate with what they believe.

But your past few posts have shown that no matter what I say, you're going to twist it and make it sound like I'm saying something completely different. I run into people like you from time to time, and honestly it's not worth my time to argue with you because your mind is so closed to logic and reason.
Well, Rudi and Mitt conveniently don't have voting records in the Senate or the House of the US, while the unspecified voting records you invoke for Hillary and Obama are condemned by innuendo. Given the Bush and late Republican Party's leadership in the Senate and House record of spending money from future generations, as well as attempting to insert their "values" for your personal decisions while they disregard them with divisive legislation that Rudi clearly doesn't support, I would be interested in your perspective on how you determine Hillary and Obama are so far left. I understand if you find this too much of a challenge. Being fiscally responsible and socially responsive to our changing social make up is not automatically "far left" as you put it. But you are the one who put half the available political spectrum from far left to far right between Rudi and Hillary/Obama. It would be nice if you could validate your claim. Jim
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.... Opinions presented as fact seem to be a hallmark of the right wing these days, and you seem to be no exception.
Hahahaha! Duh noive!
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