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Coal to Fuel technology comes closer

Put down the vegetable oil and read this...

http://news.com.com/2061-11128_3-617...-0-5&subj=news
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Right. "Coal latte". What vehicle is that going to work in? An industrial furnace, sure; a diesel engine, not quite. Not exactly carbon-neutral either. Back to vegetable oil.

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How much energy is going to be consumed to make that mixture?
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Actually, look at Brazil, they are using Coal to power diesel cars RIGHT NOW. Very successfully. Once our Government decides there is an actual problem with depending on oil under the most violent area in the world we can start doing serious research and application into these alternatives.

I posted the links for Brazil a bit back. I will try and find them in a bit. I am getting ready to pull the heads on the 500E and do a bit of port and polishing while the motor is out.

EDIT it is on page3 of this link http://www.benzworld.org/forums/off-...l+gasification No link to source but I have it somewhere to have gotten those figures.

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I think the Germans developed and were using coal-derived vehicle fuels during WW2.

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Post Fischer-Tropsch Process

Excerpt from Wikipedia:

"The process was invented in petroleum-poor but coal-rich Germany in the 1920s, to produce liquid fuels. It was used by Germany and Japan during World War II to produce ersatz fuels. Germany's annual synthetic fuel production reached more than 124,000 barrels per day from 25 plants ~ 6.5 million tons in 1944".

Not the best source, I realize!

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I'm sure when oil prices finally get out of reach there will be powerful voices pushing for coal based fuels. Unfortunately there is no existing technology to limit CO2 emissions, and my guess is it will slip. And there already are nasty environmental effects from coal mining that will not go away soon.

Biomass, wind and other solar processes are the only sustainable ways forward. Coal will undoubtedly play a part, but hopefully it will be in electric power generation with sequestration technologies in place. Hell, we can use the CO2 output to grow algae, and make transportation fuel from that.

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I certainly will not argue that coal is pretty "dirty" energy, but I am a little biased. Other than tourism, tobacco (we all know in what direction that crop is going) and coal are the only things we have to sell in West Virginia...

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That'll be Tom Jones happy then , the Welsh have got loads of coal .
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I didn't read the article but I read the title of the thread. One of my stocks, HW (Headwaters), actually converts coal into a clean burning fuel. If you see potential in this technology then you might want to invest in the company.
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