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As the pack of Yorkies circles the prey.
Oh please, the "victim" feels cornered
Since you know "everything about everything" I still suggest that you read this Bot it may help you defend your position better when it comes to "terrorist" states
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Again, Again, Again, Again...
Saddam signed a ceasefire which he failed to live-up to. That put him in violation of the ceasefire. What happens when one side violates the ceasefire?

Deposed. Blue fingers. Hanged. Emerging democracy.

Again, Again, Again, Again...

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For the blindly obtuse - Again, violating a ceasefire without reinitiating of battle DOES NOT constitute cause to invade a country. While you might feel that the repeating of “Deposed. Blue fingers. Hanged. Emerging democracy justifies blowing up 500,000+ people, destroying their infrastructure, starting a civil war and introducing a terror network to their country most of the thinking world does not.

The countries of the UN would have never, NEVER voted to play Shock and Awe over “violating a ceasefire” and you know it. It took chicanery and arm-twisting along with a nice set of cooked facts about WMD and their imminent threat to get the UN and US Congress to agree to Shock and Awe. The fact that you also were duped apparently still gets to you but trying the Three Card Monte Excuse for why we went to Iraq to try and rationalize it isn’t going to play.

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McBear, watch Bot either come back pretending that you are victimizing him too or come back swinging denying any logic you put forth. The day he gets down on his knees and says he was wrong I think hell will freeze over, it's just not him.
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Eye-ran is just another shat country that doesn't mean JACK SQUAT.

Why do we bother? They're no threat to us.

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I fear we will see the size of their threat soon enough. I really hope someone doesn't plan to deal with this with air strikes alone. As a former Zoomie I appreciate the confidence in Air Power but Iran will take lots of tanks and boots on ground if we start shitting in that nest.

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For the blindly obtuse - Again, violating a ceasefire without reinitiating of battle DOES NOT constitute cause to invade a country. While you might feel that the repeating of “Deposed. Blue fingers. Hanged. Emerging democracy justifies blowing up 500,000+ people, destroying their infrastructure, starting a civil war and introducing a terror network to their country most of the thinking world does not.

The countries of the UN would have never, NEVER voted to play Shock and Awe over “violating a ceasefire” and you know it. It took chicanery and arm-twisting along with a nice set of cooked facts about WMD and their imminent threat to get the UN and US Congress to agree to Shock and Awe. The fact that you also were duped apparently still gets to you but trying the Three Card Monte Excuse for why we went to Iraq to try and rationalize it isn’t going to play.
In Bot's defense, allow me to add that unlike most, he has never come across as "duped". There was a time when almost every pro-Iraq invasion persona engaged in these debates did come across that way, but Bot was one of damned few exceptions. He seems perfectly willing to ride the bullshit train from time to time as long as it makes his stop, but he has always had a good grasp of the facts.



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McBear, watch Bot either come back pretending that you are victimizing him too or come back swinging denying any logic you put forth. The day he gets down on his knees and says he was wrong I think hell will freeze over, it's just not him.
Not a problem, I have managed projects for many years and have dealt will pretty much all of it. I like the creativity of answers.

As Jon Stewart said the other night, "I have heard better reasoning from my 4 year old as to why there is feces in the DVD player".

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In Bot's defense, allow me to add that unlike most, he has never come across as "duped". There was a time when almost every pro-Iraq invasion persona engaged in these debates did come across that way, but Bot was one of damned few exceptions. He seems perfectly willing to ride the bullshit train from time to time as long as it makes his stop, but he has always had a good grasp of the facts.
I agree, which is why his current defense seems somewhat incongruous. Reading bots argument de jour is where I gleaned the duped observation. Maybe it’s the damned Yorkies.

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Iran is going to get hit sooner than you all think.
I have already lost in the betting pool. I had April 1 for two reasons. First the obvious George Bush Day

The Second reason I assumed April 1 involved the weekend where much of Congress would be out of town and therefore not able to jump on every news show instantly, and it would be the week before Easter so there would be a Good Friday televised speech to “bring the country together” and have a good ol’ Easter Sunday prayer for the Nation. Guaranteed 10 point bump in ratings.

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It's slated for Good Friday don't you worry, stay tuned!

JP reported it as a Russian intelligence thing but it's right out of the Debka files. Same shit happened days before we invaded Iraq.

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