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hahahahahahaha, "we" want to be just like the Iranians if you ask me
Are you so stupid that you can't figure that out? Do the latests moves from the White House concerning Gonzales make you go hmmm? You tell me how Bush is reconstructing our government, what happened to "checks and balances"? All I see is the White House way or the highway, am I wrong again?
I guess I was wrong. My mistake: You can be that stupid.

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I guess I was wrong. My mistake: You can be that stupid.

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Let me give you an example, maybe you will understand that once your rights have been taken away and you accepted it because it was "temporary measure" count on them to be gone for good:
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Egypt: A permanent emergency?
By Martin Asser
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For nearly two years, Egypt has been inching towards constitutional changes that could allow it to end one of the longest "emergencies" in history.

Emergency powers were implemented in 1981, after the assassination of President Anwar Sadat, and have been in force ever since.
But critics of Mr Sadat's enduring successor, Hosni Mubarak, say the amendments will enable a replacement of emergency laws with something just as authoritarian - but permanent.
The 34 new articles were approved by parliamentary vote on 19 March, with the opposition boycotting proceedings.
Now the Egyptian public is being given the chance to decide on them in a national referendum that the government seems likely to win.
Truncated schedule
In what has been seen as a show of official anxiety, the president has decreed that the referendum is being held on a date 10 days earlier than that expected.

The amendments will write into permanent law emergency-style powers that have been used to violate human rights
Amnesty International

The opposition cried foul, saying the truncated campaign - just six days between decree and referendum - was meant to prevent organisation of an effective "no" vote.
Voters (like the MPs before them) have to approve or reject all the amendments as a single package - despite the diverse nature of the articles.
The threshold is a simple majority of those that voted, so the expected low turn-out will be no help to opponents.
The US, which has put considerable pressure on Egypt in the past over its democratic shortcomings, has only expressed "some concerns" about some of the amendments.
Amnesty International, on the other hand, is calling it the most serious undermining of human rights in Egypt since 1981.
Demise of socialism
The government says the constitutional changes will enhance Egypt's democracy and allow it to fight terrorism more effectively.
Article One, for example, changes Egypt from a "democratic, socialist state" based on an alliance of workers to "a democratic system based on citizenship".

The socialist economic system previously enshrined in Article 4 becomes a system "based on freedom of economic action... safeguarding ownership and preserving workers rights".
The anachronistic Article 59 - "safeguarding socialist gains is a national duty" - becomes a much more fashionable "conserving the environment is a national duty".
One of the most controversial amendments, Article 179, gives the president new powers to refer terrorist cases to any judicial authority he chooses - including military tribunals whose verdicts are not subject to appeal.
It also says the authorities may override three other articles protecting individual freedoms and privacy.
Dynastic transfer
Some amendments appear to be specifically written to perpetuate the rule of Mr Mubarak's National Democratic Party.
In fact, his critics say they are meant to pave the way to a dynastic transfer of power to Mr Mubarak's son, Gamal, currently a high-flying official in the NDP.

Article Five, for example, gives a nod towards a "political regime based on the multi-party system".
But it also bans "any political activity or political party based on any religious background or foundation".
It seems hardly a coincidence that the strongest challenge to the NDP comes from the Muslim Brotherhood, a banned organisation whose supporters stand as independents in elections.
Article 88, which previously stipulated supervision of elections by members of the judiciary, has also been rewritten to remove that control.
This seems connected to a high-profile struggle last year when two senior judges unsuccessfully pressed for an inquiry into alleged electoral fraud during the general election in 2005.
Meanwhile Article 7 requires presidential candidates to be nominated by parties with at least 3% of elected members of parliament - another insurmountable obstacle for the Brotherhood.
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Amnesty International, a London-based human rights group, says the amendments "will write into permanent law emergency-style powers that have been used to violate human rights" since 1981.
Article 179 seems particularly draconian, stating that Articles 41, 44 and 45 (paragraph two) of the constitution must not "hamper" investigations into terrorist crimes.
These articles prevent detention without judicial authorities' permission, police searches without a warrant and eavesdropping on personal communications.
It is unclear how fully the government will use the new powers enshrined in the amendments.
Critics like Amnesty expect more of the same, in a country where political opponents are already subjected to numerous constraints preventing them from competing on an equal footing with the ruling party.
But the Muslim Brotherhood may be facing an even greater crackdown under Article Five, given that its entire programme can be summed up with the maxim "Islam is the solution".







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