Originally Posted by Botnst
1. Oh please. That is beyond weak. Tell me of the Red Cross visits to the American soldiers held captive by the Islamists. The Islamast MoFo's were already off the chart about 30 years ago when we didn't even know they could be a threat. I cannot recall any instance when they even feigned acknowledgment of the Geneva Conventions. Hell, those brutal bastards would rather a woman die than show her private parts to a male doctor.
2. Valid point.
3. Best point.
4. Not according to the Islamist motherfuckers. We all know that morality is relative, why shouldn't we embrace the differences available from foreign cultures and learn from them. We can start with their view of prisoner treatment and finish-up with how they treat women.
Now, when exactly has the United States condoned torture?
When have our citizens, under color of government, acted contrary to our laws concerning prisoner treatment?
What has happened to Americans caught abusing prisoners?
Please turn your critical thinking skills to have a look at the enemy. Let's hear what you have to say about them.
To your first retort, I never said a word about Islamists. When we torture, it opens the door ACROSS THE BOARD. Today it may be Islamists, tomorrow [or next generation] it might be N. Korea or China or some other country. Precedent cannot be set. PERIOD.
Regarding the Fourth point, WE are not Islamic Fundamentalists. We, as a country should be using OUR moral codes to uphold our actions.
If the International investigations have been correct, the US has condoned torture at Gitmo and through our use of third country techniques that the CIA runs.
Our Citizens, under color of Government, have acted contrary to our laws by denying due process to prisoners at a US facility at Gitmo and by breaking Federal laws which state that it is against the law to intentionally breach international treaty that has been signed by the United States.
What has happened to the “low fruit” that have been caught? They have been prosecuted. It will be time before we see if International Courts [correct venue] determine that the patterns of violations reach War Crimes. I hope they do not, I fear they will.