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Congressional antiwar strategy is 'undermining' US troops

Cheney tells AIPAC that Congressional antiwar strategy is 'undermining' US troops
During an address to the 2007 policy conference held by the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) in Washington DC, Vice President Dick Cheney said that Congressional members who are pursuing an antiwar strategy aren't "supporting the troops; they are undermining them."
After joking that "if Karl Rove finds out about this, he won't let me out again," Cheney told AIPAC members that they "play a vital role in making the strategic and moral case for America's friendship with Israel."
The vice president then spoke of the "mind-set" of terrorists.
"Civilized, decent societies will never fully understand the kind of mind-set that drives men to strap on bombs or fly airplanes into buildings, all for the purpose of killing unsuspecting men, women and children who they have never met and who have done them no wrong, but that is the very kind of blind, prideful hatred we're up against," Cheney said. "And their aim ultimately is to acquire the means to match that hatred and to use chemical, biological or nuclear weapons to impose their will by unspeakable violence or blackmail. An enemy that operates in the shadows and views the entire world as a battlefield is not one we can fight with strategies used in other wars."
After referring to 9/11, Cheney said that it was time to tackle some "myths" that have arisen regarding the war in Iraq.
"In fact, five and a half years into the struggle, we find ourselves having to confront a series of myths about the war on terror, myths that are often repeated and deserve to be refuted," Cheney said. "The most common myth is that Iraq has nothing to do with the global war on terror. Opponents of our military action there have called Iraq a diversion from the real conflict, a distraction from the business of fighting and defeating bin Laden and the al Qaeda network. We hear this over and over again, not as an argument but as an assertion meant to close off argument."
According to Cheney, "critics conveniently disregard the words of bin Laden himself," adding, "This leader of al Qaeda has referred to Baghdad as the capital of the caliphate. He has also said, and I quote, 'Success in Baghdad will be success for the United States. Failure in Iraq is the failure of the United States. Their defeat in Iraq will mean defeat in all their wars,' end quote."
"Obviously, the terrorists have no illusion about the importance of the struggle in Iraq," Cheney said. "They have not called it a distraction or a diversion from their war against the United States. They know it is the central front in that war, and it's where they've chosen to make a stand. Our Marines are fighting al Qaeda terrorists today in Anbar province. U.S. and Iraqi forces recently killed al Qaeda terrorists in Baghdad who were responsible for numerous car bomb attacks. Iraq's relevance to the war on terror simply could not be more plain."
Cheney added, "Here at home that makes one thing above all clear. If you support the war on terror, then it only makes sense to support it where the terrorists are fighting us."
"The second myth is the most transparent, and that is the notion that one can support the troops without giving them the tools and reinforcements needed to carry out their mission," Cheney said.
Cheney said that "when members of Congress pursue an antiwar strategy that's been called 'Slow-Bleed,' they're not supporting the troops; they are undermining them...and when members of Congress speak not of victory but of time limits -- when members speak not of victory but of time limits, deadlines or other arbitrary measures, they're telling the enemy simply to watch the clock and wait us out."
According to Think Progress, "The right-wing has begun a coordinated effort to smear Iraq war critics by describing their legislative plan as a 'slow-bleed strategy.'"
"The phrase was first used in an article Wednesday by John Bresnahan of The Politico; within hours, the Republican National Committee issued a release falsely claiming that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) "call their plan the ’slow-bleed strategy,'" Think Progress noted. "In fact, as Bresnahan clarified in a subsequent article, 'slow-bleed' was 'not a term used by any Democrats or the anti-war groups supporting their efforts.'"

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How comforting it must be to a U.S. soldier right now, knowing that troop funding hangs by a weak thread being controlled by the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, who daily, spout their anti war rhetoric, threatening to cut off funds at any minute. I bet this keeps their morale up.

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How comforting it must be to a U.S. soldier right now, knowing that troop funding hangs by a weak thread being controlled by the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, who daily, spout their anti war rhetoric, threatening to cut off funds at any minute. I bet this keeps their morale up.
You are so right. With a geniune chance of coming home alive and physically, if not mentally, intact should funding for this Fiasco be withdrawn I have to agree, the morale of the troop should be lifted. Jim
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Soldiers know they are subject to a democracy. If the will of the voters is to put in representatives who choose to bring them home, well, that's that. They themselves have no say in it, this is, after all, still not a banana republic where the soldiers call the shots. This entire propaganda schtick the Repugs are on, that we some how must give some block of people called "the soldiers" a voice in the democratic system of this country, is fascist and dangerous to this nation. They get to vote like everyone else. They lost. Come back in two years and bitch at the ballot box, otherwise, shut the fuck up and do what you're told, and I can give a shit how "comforted" they are by the political decisions that the Founders of the country wisely cut them the fuck out of. If they wanted a job where they could be "comforted" they should have stayed working at McDonalds. Cbitch can whine all he wants, but Nancy Pelosi is where she is because the voters put her there, and unlike Bush, is doing the things the majority of the people of this country want done, number one of which in any poll, is to get us the fuck out of Iraq.

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The Surrender Party flexes it's muscles at the military.
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Who are we surrendering too? People are so tired of your side's false bullsht. We aren't "surrendering" to anything in Iraq, because there was never a threat there. Perhaps you mean surrendering our desire to steal these folk's oil, something you are known to heartily endorse.
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Your party, you choose.
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And you were so in love with your "maverick" image...you are just another John McCain sycophant.

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You can oppose the war and still support the troops. How would any of you war oppositionists like to be a member of the military knowing the funding rug was fixing to get yanked out from underneath you, all because the war has become politicized, instead of a true exit strategy being planned. If you left wingers, who so hate our presence in Iraq, would step up to the plate and present plans for real exit strategies instead of using our soldiers as tools of threat for pulling funding, you would be assured a win of the White House in 2008.

I recognize the following:
1. Our presence in Iraq is not doing us any good with foreign relations.
2. Our reasons for being there have proven to be questionable, at best.

But what are we supposed to do? Cut and run like we did in Somalia? Become an example and further proof that we truly are the 'paper tiger' bin Hiden has so labeled us? We would do much more irrepairable harm if we leave without finishing the job! I say we escalate the number of troops, get the job done, NOW and THEN, get the fuck out and not a minute before some sort of stability has been put in place. We created the mess, now we must clean it up. You guys propose we leave the garbage behind for al Queida and other terrorist organizations to come in and scrounge off of, furthering their purpose! Some plan!

What's going on in Iraq is not pretty. War isn't pretty. War shouldn't be pasted across the screens of our televisions each and every day because it is not for the weak of stomachs and shallow resolves. Every day a road block is placed in front of the troops is another day they have to stay there. Why can't anybody see that??

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The war is political cmith, so the funding is tied to it; can't escape that!
Since you recognize what you listed do you agree or disagree with Veep comment that the invasion on Iraq was part of the WOT? Do you think he would have used the same language if say he was giving a similar speech in Congress rather than AIPAC?
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