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What?? The Dems Have no Control Over their Own Party??

Sounds like a bunch of babies to me(moveon.org and their ilk).


Ailes: Pressure To Boycott Debates 'Must Be Resisted'...

“We have not received official word from the Nevada State Democratic Party disclosing a change in debate plans. Rumors are being circulated and if true, news organizations will want to think twice before getting involved in the Nevada Democratic Caucus which appears to be controlled by radical fringe out-of-state interest groups, not the Nevada Democratic Party. In the past, Moveon.org has said they ‘own’ the Democratic party—while most Democrats don’t agree with that, we’re waiting to see if that’s the case in Nevada.” -- David Rhodes, Vice President, Fox News

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Ha they caved in to MOVEON.ORG!!!!! What a bunch of sallys!!!!

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reviewjournal.com -- Opinion - EDITORIAL: Meltdown over Fox

Funny article about the whinney dems!!

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Some meltdown. Your Fox pals have the same shit-in-mouth disease Coulter has:

Dems cancel debate over Fox chief's Obama joke


LAS VEGAS, Nevada (CNN) -- A Nevada Democratic presidential debate that was to have been co-hosted by Fox News Network was canceled by organizers, in part because of a joke by Fox Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes about presidential contender Sen. Barack Obama.

Democrats canceled the debate Friday. They said a comment by Ailes during a Thursday night speech to a group of radio and television news directors indicated the network was biased against their party.

"It's true that Barack Obama is on the move," Ailes said, deliberately confusing the Illinois senator's name with that of terrorist leader Osama bin Laden. "I don't know if it's true President Bush called [Pakistan President Pervez] Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?' "

Even before Ailes' remarks, there was intense pressure from the liberal group MoveOn.org to cancel the August event as part of its boycott of Fox.

Ailes has served as a campaign adviser to Republican candidates, including former Presidents Reagan and Bush.

Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards dropped out of the debate Thursday, citing, in part, Fox's participation.

Fox News Vice President David Rhodes responded to the debate cancellation with a written statement saying MoveOn.org owns the Democratic Party.

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3/09/2007 at 8:35 PM EST

Deputy Campaign Manager Jonathan Prince sent the following email to supporters this evening.

You may have heard by now that John Edwards was the first candidate to officially say no to the Fox News debate in Nevada -- and because of the hard work of so many grassroots and netroots Democrats, news is breaking tonight that Fox is out.

Fox has already started striking backat John for saying no. (There's a surprise - Fox attacking a Democrat.) Last night, Roger Ailes - the life-long Republican operative who is now Chairman of Fox News Channel - said that any candidate "who believes he can blacklist any news organization is making a terrible mistake" and "is impeding freedom of speech and free press."

And John's not their only target. Tonight Fox News Vice President David Rhodes is telling news organizations not to get involved in the Nevada Democratic Caucus because of "radical fringe" groups - meaning grassroots Democrats (that would be you) - who objected to Fox's long history of spreading Republican propaganda at the expense of Democratic leaders.

The whole right-wing is getting in on the attack; the Drudge Report is blaring the headline: "War! Dems Pull Out of Fox News Debate."

Enough is enough. It's time to send a clear message to Fox News and their allies that their right-wing talking points and temper tantrums won't go unchallenged anymore - when it comes to what Democrats should do in the Democratic primary, we'll decide - no matter what they report:

https://johnedwards.com/action/contribute/fox

Fox News has already proven they have no intention of providing "fair and balanced" coverage of any Democrat in this election.

In recent weeks they have run blatant lies about Senator Obama's background. And Fox was only too happy to give Ann Coulter a platform to spew more hate a few days after her bigoted attack on Senator Edwards and the gay community.

Now it's time for Democrats to stand together and send a clear message to Roger Ailes, Fox News and all the rest of them: bias isn't balance, but turning tables is fair.

The truth is, Fox News can "report" whatever they want. And when it works for us, we'll deal with them on our terms. But this campaign is about responsibility and accountability, and we need to send the message to Fox that if they want to be the corporate mouthpiece of the Republican Party more than they want to be an impartial news outlet, they shouldn't expect Democrats to play along.

You can send that message by contributing today, and remind Fox News that in this election, Democrats won't take their spin lying down:

https://johnedwards.com/action/contribute/fox

Thank you for standing up for what we believe in.

Jonathan Prince
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P.S. If the folks at Fox wonder why nobody thinks they play it straight, they should take a look at what Roger Ailes said about debates in 1988 when he was a top Republican spinmaster for then Vice President Bush: He told the Washington Post, "I don't know that we need to do more than one [debate]. There's no reason to think we'd need more than one." And he told the New York Times, "I don't think you learn anything about the issues" from debates. So please send Roger Ailes a message: Hypocrisy isn't fair and it isn't balanced; it's just hypocrisy - and we've had enough of it from you.

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The dem's have no control over much of anything: Las Vegas SUN: House, Senate Dems Realize Power Limited

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Why, I know that Jayhawk, and I am glad that is the case. In 2008,there is an unusal event: most of the Senators up for re-election are Republicans, twenty of the little buggers I believe. I am hoping the GOP senators continue to block the public will on Iraq while Bush continues to be the biggest stumbling buffoon to ever hold the Whitehouse, standing by Cheney and Gonzalez as those two continue their assault on the Bill of Rights. Then my fondest wish will come true: the capture of both houses by two thirds majorities, with the Whitehouse in the hands of the Democrats. Thank you all for helping my dream to come true. Please, please, do not stop what you are doing, filibuster away, send out your hatchet people to scream faggot, fire prosecutors for investigating Republicans, support perjurers and corrupt border cops, run the Walter Reed hospital the way you run your fucking war, please, please, do not stop.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Unbelievable.

The Republican party appears to have been taken over by Right Wing ultra conservative gun toting, fanatic Christian, Swiftboating, anti-gay, bloodthirsty, irredeemably indentured to big oil interests.

And they still have the unbelievable gall to assert the "Democrats have no control over their own house".

Add hypocrite to the list of what the Republicans stand for.

The American public is pretty much fed up with them, as evidenced by the last election results.

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The Republican party appears to have been taken over by Right Wing ultra conservative gun toting, fanatic Christian, Swiftboating, anti-gay, bloodthirsty, irredeemably indentured to big oil interests.

And they still have the unbelievable gall to assert the "Democrats have no control over their own house".

Add hypocrite to the list of what the Republicans stand for.

The American public is pretty much fed up with them, as evidenced by the last election results.
You have Republican's confused w/ the Associated Press. That was an AP article asserting the democrat lack of control. And it is totally Right On!

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