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CIA won't even look into their personnel leaks!
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I understand, but the assertion (not by me, but by a juror who claimed to be speaking for the jurors collectively) was that Libby was a hapless fall guy, whose crime was committed while doing the job he was assigned by senior WH officials.
Ah, now there's an unbiased juror.

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Are you sure they didn't come to a fair and unbiased conclusion based on testimony as it was presented in the courtroom?

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Scooter Libby: The man who lied to the FBI about whether the President secretly declassified files so the Vice President could pass the identity of an undercover CIA agent to reporters in retribution against the woman’s husband who had provided evidence undermining the President’s case for war.
Either he's a fall-guy here, or nothing actually happened at all and this is just the politically motivated democratic lawyers attacking the poor Bush administration out of jealousy and somehow getting the prosecutor, judges and jury to pursue, try and convict. All just to make the Bush administration look bad. Damn LIBERALS!

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Are you sure they didn't come to a fair and unbiased conclusion based on testimony as it was presented in the courtroom?
I am sure that the trial was about a lying to authorities, aren't you?

So why are jurors offering opinions on a subject for which no charges have been brought, no adjudication has occurred and for which no formal rebuttal is offered, as though that has relevance to the case they are deciding?

They were influenced by events that may not have even occurred. Can you think of one word to describe that kind of person?

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I hate to break it to you, but the subject of those alleged lies was not deemed out of bounds, nor was Mr. Libby's motivation. A great deal of testimony was offered in that very arena on that very subject.

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I hate to break it to you, but the subject of those alleged lies was not deemed out of bounds, nor was Mr. Libby's motivation. A great deal of testimony was offered in that very arena on that very subject.
I hate to break it to you, but the information that was presented was uncontested since it was factual evidence -- who said what and when. the legality of those facts was NOT in question.

Therefore, the extrapolation as to their legality is prejudice.

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It may still lead to conclusion. I'll even go so far as to suggest that you, the Botmeister himself, may have formed an opinion based upon the testimony and the transcripts and the 8 hours of tapes you had mercilessly thrust upon you to the exclusion of all else. That conclusion may be based upon an incomplete picture, as many of our conclusions are, but the human mind is driven to gather disorderly scraps into a nice, neat pile -- it's what we do. Of course, that doesn't mean you would have shot your mouth off about it...

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It may still lead to conclusion. I'll even go so far as to suggest that you, the Botmeister himself, may have formed an opinion based upon the testimony and the transcripts and the 8 hours of tapes you had mercilessly thrust upon you to the exclusion of all else. That conclusion may be based upon an incomplete picture, as many of our conclusions are, but the human mind is driven to gather disorderly scraps into a nice, neat pile -- it's what we do. Of course, that doesn't mean you would have shot your mouth off about it...
I'm shocked I say! Not the lofty towering intellect of BOT?!?!!? Prejudiced????

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I like the "vast left-wing conspiracy" theory.
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