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Wrong! I think President Carter will be judged as a visionary Without his initiative We would have invaded Egypt by now at the request of Israel .
By every measure, Carter is by far the worst president we have ever had!

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By every measure, Carter is by far the worst president we have ever had!
Oh yeah, well he believes in UFOs just like I do and that makes him an allright guy
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Jean Kirkpatrick on Jimmy.

The Carter administration's motives were good, but their policies were inadequate, uninformed and mistaken.

They made things worse, not better.

Those who had least, suffered most.

Poor countries grew poorer.

Rich countries grew poorer, too.

The United States grew weaker.

Meanwhile, the Soviet Union grew stronger.

The Carter administration's unilateral "restraint" in developing and deploying weapon systems was accompanied by an unprecedented Soviet buildup, military and political.

The Soviets, working on the margins and through the loopholes of SALT I, developed missiles of stunning speed and accuracy and targeted the cities of our friends in Europe.

They produced weapons capable of wiping out our land-based missiles.

And then, feeling strong, the Soviet leaders moved with boldness and skill to exploit their new advantages.

Facilities were completed in Cuba during those years that permit Soviet nuclear submarines to roam our coasts, that permit planes to fly reconnaissance missions over the eastern United States, and that permit Soviet electronic surveillance to monitor our telephone calls and our telegrams.

Those were the years the Ayatollah Khomeini came to power in Iran, while in Nicaragua and Sandanista developed a one-party dictatorship based on the Cuban model.

From the fall of Saigon in 1975 'til January 1981, Soviet influence expanded dramatically into Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Angola, Ethiopia, Mozambique, South Yemen, Libya, Syria, Aden, Congo, Madagascar, Seychelles, Nicaragua, and Grenada.

Soviet block forces and advisers sought to guarantee what they called the "irreversibility" of their newfound influence and to stimulate insurgencies in a dozen other places.

During this period, the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, murdered its president and began a ghastly war against the Afghan people.

The American people were shocked by these events.

We were greatly surprised to learn of our diminished economic and military strength.

We were demoralized by the treatment of our hostages in Iran.

And we were outraged by harsh attacks on the United States in the United Nations.

As a result, we lost confidence in ourselves and in our government.

Jimmy Carter looked for an explanation for all these problems and thought he found it in the American people.

But the people knew better.

It wasn't malaise we suffered from; it was Jimmy Carter - and Walter Mondale.
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Oh yeah, well he believes in UFOs just like I do and that makes him an allright guy
Well, he does have that going for him!
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Military genius that you are, in a global war you would attack the stronger enemy first.

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So Saddam, with a crippled military, was stronger than the Taliban and Pakistan?
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From the minute we defeated the Tellaban in Afghanistan, after President Bush declared was on terrorism, I knew we would have to go into Iraq to consolidate our efforts to defeat terrorism where it lived and thrived--in the ME. Even an idiot, looking at a map of the ME, could see that Iraq was in the very center of the ME's most dangerous area. Having another democratic nation between Afghanistan and Israel would be imperative if we were going to have any chance of keeping a foothold in the center of Islamic Jihad territory. Strategically, both in military and political terms, Iraq was a no-brainer! We had to control it. The whole world knew they were a serious danger to peace in the ME, and could not be allowed to try and defeat our every move to destroy terrorism.
So the Taliban have been defeated?
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So Saddam, with a crippled military, was stronger than the Taliban and Pakistan?
I missed something: When was the last time any interest of the USA was attacked by Pakistan?

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When your at war w/ Islamic Jihad you don't go to Hoboken--you go to the ME! Or you wait from them to come back to the US and we fight them in Hoboken. President Bush made the only call possible!
The Middle East? Weren't the people who attacked us based in Afghanistan?
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So using this logic when did the Taliban and Afghanistan & Pakistan attack the US?
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When your at war w/ Islamic Jihad you don't go to Hoboken--you go to the ME! Or you wait from them to come back to the US and we fight them in Hoboken. President Bush made the only call possible!
Same old BS from the right wing nut jobs. Fight there or fight here crap. That line is getting so passé. Can you guys come up with a new line?

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