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They don't see it that way For them we are the infidels
True. I was looking at it more on a historical or global perspective. When you look at it from a Militant Islamic POV then anyone who is now, or has ever been against them or is not Muslim would be an enemy [in their case blood enemy].

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Go back before that even: When the Muslim Arabs expanded into what had been the Byzantine (Christian) state that ran the Levant. They were given the boot, amidst rivers of blood, and Islamified. That's the ardent dream of all Islamists, to bring the love and tender devotion of Sharia to each of us.

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I agree, in the short term. In the longer term there is a good possibility that the Iraqis will be able to address this problem without our help.

back at the beginning of the Iraq campaign Rumsfeld predicted we'd be in Iraq 10 - 15 years. That estimate still seems about right.
That is an interesting quote from Rumsfled. I was under the impression he said we would be there for six months.
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President Bush said it would be at least a generational war... I think he is right...
I think you people are fucking idiots.
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Go back before that even: When the Muslim Arabs expanded into what had been the Byzantine (Christian) state that ran the Levant. They were given the boot, amidst rivers of blood, and Islamified. That's the ardent dream of all Islamists, to bring the love and tender devotion of Sharia to each of us.

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Yes, and they have reached the zenith of their power, eclipsing the Russians in the number of nuclear weapons, soldiers, tanks and munitions! They are an enormous threat to us, we will be annhilated by this enemy!
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Yes, and they have reached the zenith of their power, eclipsing the Russians in the number of nuclear weapons, soldiers, tanks and munitions! They are an enormous threat to us, we will be annhilated by this enemy!
I'm guessing you'd have loved being a Byzantine. Your historical and political acumen would have been a good fit.

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True. I was looking at it more on a historical or global perspective. When you look at it from a Militant Islamic POV then anyone who is now, or has ever been against them or is not Muslim would be an enemy [in their case blood enemy].
The oversimplification of the Islamic world here is tragic. The real fact is that it is tremendously fractured and diverse. Instead of promoting political systems that would bring them unity and nationhood, we exploit their divisions and do everything we can to keep them in a state of perpetual war. We support fascist governments in Saudi Arabia, Jordon, Egypt and Pakistan that have zero legitmacy with the peoples of these countries, who hate us for supporting their oppressors. Why is it no surprise that the majority of terrorists come from these countries?
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I'm guessing you'd have loved being a Byzantine. Your historical and political acumen would have been a good fit.

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Yes, that is us! The weak and tottering Bysantines! Moral corruption has weakened us! The Islamists, with their massive nuclear firepower will invade California and overwhelm us, imposing Sharia on New York and whipping women in Atlanta! Woe is us before the Islamic horde!
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Yes, that is us! The weak and tottering Bysantines! Moral corruption has weakened us! The Islamists, with their massive nuclear firepower will invade California and overwhelm us, imposing Sharia on New York and whipping women in Atlanta! Woe is us before the Islamic horde!
I am glad you can see that you are overwhelmed by my Muslim brothers, surrender now, pledge your undying loyalty to the Jakarta Expat and I will put in a good word for you with the Imams.
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Yes, that is us! The weak and tottering Bysantines! Moral corruption has weakened us! The Islamists, with their massive nuclear firepower will invade California and overwhelm us, imposing Sharia on New York and whipping women in Atlanta! Woe is us before the Islamic horde!
You're still mired in Cold War thinking--in terms of massed armies and MIRV'd missles. As you occasionally and accurately remind us, Pakistan is a dictatorship and is only friendly to the USA as long as the dictator stays in power. If he goes, then the Pak arsenal is up for grabs.

Dare we fantasize that an Islamobomb could end-up in the hands of a fanatical Islamic group and make it's way to say, oh pick a city, Houston? But that's only one nuke and one city so why worry?

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