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I am truely amazed at how many liberal atheists are here on one forum.

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Ok, boys, let me point something out for you:

Without Judeo_Christian moral values you would still be sitting on the trees and eating your newborns instead of posting on the web forums.
Don't look East -- the Rising Sun may blind you, grasshopper.

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Don't look East -- the Rising Sun may blind you, grasshopper.
Hmm..what was that supposed to mean GS?

Frankly, I am surprised by the calmness of the responses to my post.

I am mortal too, you know.

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"Moral values" were well established in the Far East before the bible was even written. The bible was not some magic pill of morality -- far from it.

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Ok, boys, let me point something out for you:

Without Judeo_Christian moral values you would still be sitting on the trees and eating your newborns instead of posting on the web forums.
Er....wha? Most Judeo/Christian 'moral values' are based on those of earlier religions. There's nothing new under the sun....

Edit: GS beat me to it. And much better stated, I might add.
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Maybe true, but it was Christianity that was adopted and helped to shape the Western civilization.
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Er....wha? Most Judeo/Christian 'moral values' are based on those of earlier religions. There's nothing new under the sun....

Edit: GS beat me to it. And much better stated, I might add.
Mostly true, but Jesus was a revolutionary. I am always amazed that the conservatives claim him, because Jesus was the original far-left leftist. Sell everything but the clothes on your back and give it to the poor. Do not dedicate your life to the pursuit of riches, dedicate it to helping others. Exhalt the children and their well being above all other things. Mr. Christ couldn't get elected Septic Tank Inspector in a Republican town if he ran today.

It was the Apostle Paul and the Roman Emperor Constantine that turned it into what it is today: a bunch of bullshit. Christians, especially Protestant Christians, are simply misnamed. They are Paulians, they exhalt Paul's homophobia and love of authoritarian structures over the real message of Christ. They are Constantinians, they twist the message in order to gain political power. Actually helping the less fortunate? Pass the tax cuts, please.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Maybe true, but it was Christianity that was adopted and helped to shape the Western civilization.
No, it was Christianity that was conquered by the Romans under the guise of adopting it. Very clever guy, that Constantine. The following millennia+ of Western civilization were forged under the brutality of Roman imperialism.

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