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Iran defiant on nuclear programme.

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From BBC News a few hours ago.

Iran defiant on nuclear programme

President Ahmadinejad was addressing a gathering of clerics

Iran will not go back on its controversial nuclear programme, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says.
A day before leading UN members discuss further sanctions against Tehran, he compared Iran's programme to a train with no brakes and no reverse gear.
The president's tone was echoed by a deputy foreign minister who said Iran was ready for any situation, even war.
But US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said what Iran needed was not a reverse gear, but a stop button.
She also said she was prepared to meet Iranian officials if Iran stopped nuclear enrichment.
Earlier US Vice-President Dick Cheney renewed a warning that the use of force could be an option if Iran continues to defy the West.
Meanwhile, foreign ministers from seven Muslim states meeting in Pakistan have called for a diplomatic solution to the "dangerous" stand-off.
"It is vital that all issues must be resolved through diplomacy and there must be no resort to use of force," said a statement issued after talks involving ministers from Egypt, Indonesia, Jordan, Malaysia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
'Hostile behaviour'
Permanent members of the UN Security Council and Germany are to meet in London on Monday to discuss further sanctions against Iran.
New UN resolution on tougher economic sanctions, tabled by US or European allies
US pressure on Europeans to step up bilateral sanctions
New initiative to get Iran back to talks

Q&A: Iran and the nuclear issue

The meeting was announced after the UN nuclear agency watchdog confirmed Iran had ignored a deadline to suspend its nuclear activities.
The report said Iran was expanding its enrichment programme, defying a UN resolution of December 2006.
Iran believes the UN call for it to stop uranium enrichment is unacceptable.
It denies Western claims it is secretly trying to build nuclear arms, saying its nuclear programme is for purely peaceful, energy-producing purposes.
"Iran has obtained the technology to produce nuclear fuel and Iran's move is like a train... which has no brake and no reverse gear," President Ahmadinejad, quoted by ISNA news agency, told a gathering of clerics on Sunday.
Echoing this uncompromising tone, Deputy Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mohammadi said: "We have prepared ourselves for any situation, even for war."
However, Iran's chief nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani stressed Tehran was still ready for talks.
Iranians have protested outside Western embassies in Tehran

He urged UN Security Council members meeting in London not to continue their "hostile behaviour", and said Iran would act "proportionately" to any further pressure.
The BBC's Frances Harrison in the Iranian capital says that as the West piles on more pressure there is no sense that Tehran is ready to give in.
The rhetoric - at least - is as defiant as ever, says our correspondent. Meanwhile the Tehran authorities have denied state media reports that a test rocket had been fired into space - a move that could also mean huge advance in its ballistic missile programme. Tehran now says it was a sub-orbital research rocket.
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Prepared to get bombed. They must be counting on this.
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Didn't the Shah have at least one son who we can install as president as we did for him? And we thought it couldn't get any worse than Ayatollah Khomeni

That Ahmadinejad scares me more than any other world leader right now.

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Published on Sunday, February 25, 2007 by the Sunday Times/UK
US Generals ‘Will Quit’ If Bush Orders Iran Attack
by Michael Smith and Sarah Baxter in Washington

SOME of America’s most senior military commanders are prepared to resign if the White House orders a military strike against Iran, according to highly placed defence and intelligence sources.

Tension in the Gulf region has raised fears that an attack on Iran is becoming increasingly likely before President George Bush leaves office. The Sunday Times has learnt that up to five generals and admirals are willing to resign rather than approve what they consider would be a reckless attack.

“There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,” a source with close ties to British intelligence said. “There is simply no stomach for it in the Pentagon, and a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible.”

A British defence source confirmed that there were deep misgivings inside the Pentagon about a military strike. “All the generals are perfectly clear that they don’t have the military capacity to take Iran on in any meaningful fashion. Nobody wants to do it and it would be a matter of conscience for them.

“There are enough people who feel this would be an error of judgment too far for there to be resignations.”

A generals’ revolt on such a scale would be unprecedented. “American generals usually stay and fight until they get fired,” said a Pentagon source. Robert Gates, the defence secretary, has repeatedly warned against striking Iran and is believed to represent the view of his senior commanders.

The threat of a wave of resignations coincided with a warning by Vice-President Dick Cheney that all options, including military action, remained on the table. He was responding to a comment by Tony Blair that it would not “be right to take military action against Iran”.

Iran ignored a United Nations deadline to suspend its uranium enrichment programme last week. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad insisted that his country “will not withdraw from its nuclear stances even one single step”.

The International Atomic Energy Agency reported that Iran could soon produce enough enriched uranium for two nuclear bombs a year, although Tehran claims its programme is purely for civilian energy purposes.

Nicholas Burns, the top US negotiator, is to meet British, French, German, Chinese and Russian officials in London tomorrow to discuss additional penalties against Iran. But UN diplomats cautioned that further measures would take weeks to agree and would be mild at best.

A second US navy aircraft carrier strike group led by the USS John C Stennis arrived in the Gulf last week, doubling the US presence there. Vice Admiral Patrick Walsh, the commander of the US Fifth Fleet, warned: “The US will take military action if ships are attacked or if countries in the region are targeted or US troops come under direct attack.”

But General Peter Pace, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, said recently there was “zero chance” of a war with Iran. He played down claims by US intelligence that the Iranian government was responsible for supplying insurgents in Iraq, forcing Bush on the defensive.

Pace’s view was backed up by British intelligence officials who said the extent of the Iranian government’s involvement in activities inside Iraq by a small number of Revolutionary Guards was “far from clear”.

Hillary Mann, the National Security Council’s main Iran expert until 2004, said Pace’s repudiation of the administration’s claims was a sign of grave discontent at the top.

“He is a very serious and a very loyal soldier,” she said. “It is extraordinary for him to have made these comments publicly, and it suggests there are serious problems between the White House, the National Security Council and the Pentagon.”

Mann fears the administration is seeking to provoke Iran into a reaction that could be used as an excuse for an attack. A British official said the US navy was well aware of the risks of confrontation and was being “seriously careful” in the Gulf.

The US air force is regarded as being more willing to attack Iran. General Michael Moseley, the head of the air force, cited Iran as the main likely target for American aircraft at a military conference earlier this month.

According to a report in The New Yorker magazine, the Pentagon has already set up a working group to plan airstrikes on Iran. The panel initially focused on destroying Iran’s nuclear facilities and on regime change but has more recently been instructed to identify targets in Iran that may be involved in supplying or aiding militants in Iraq.

However, army chiefs fear an attack on Iran would backfire on American troops in Iraq and lead to more terrorist attacks, a rise in oil prices and the threat of a regional war.

Britain is concerned that its own troops in Iraq might be drawn into any American conflict with Iran, regardless of whether the government takes part in the attack.

One retired general who participated in the “generals’ revolt” against Donald Rumsfeld’s handling of the Iraq war said he hoped his former colleagues would resign in the event of an order to attack. “We don’t want to take another initiative unless we’ve really thought through the consequences of our strategy,” he warned.

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Originally Posted by Zeitgeist
Published on Sunday, February 25, 2007 by the Sunday Times/UK
US Generals ‘Will Quit’ If Bush Orders Iran Attack
by Michael Smith and Sarah Baxter in Washington

SOME of America’s most senior military commanders are prepared to resign if the White House orders a military strike against Iran, according to highly placed defence and intelligence sources.
How many out of how many?

Some will resign if we refuse to attack Iran with nuclear weapons.
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IMOP, the one good thing about this situation is, that Irans real power, the Council of Guardians, and their mouthpiece Mahmoud Ahmadinejad have maneuvered themselves into a corner (a bit a la Bush).
They would have a hard time to explain changing their stance without loss of face to Iranians and others in the Middle East.
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