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Microsoft products are 'consumer level' products. True professionals would never consider clogging their resources with such garbage. Mac OSX and Linux are true professional level OS's.
That is such crap! I know many "professionals" that feel as I do about MS/Linux and to pretend that us poor consumers don't know what we are doing is just plain elitist.

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That is such crap! I know many "professionals" that feel as I do about MS/Linux and to pretend that us poor consumers don't know what we are doing is just plain elitist.
Note I said 'true' professionals. I can't help it if all the professionals you know keep their heads buried in the sand on what the best computers and software are. That's okay. Believe what you want. That's what makes this world go round.

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That is such crap! I know many "professionals" that feel as I do about MS/Linux and to pretend that us poor consumers don't know what we are doing is just plain elitist.
No it's not. Linux is more secure, more streamlined and faster than MS. It is completely customizable, but even if you know nothing about it, it installs and configures better than MS as well.

Not elitist. A better product that costs NOTHING. As a matter of fact, I installed VMWare on my Linux box, and emulate the old MS 2000 crap so my kid can still run all the old MS applications.

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No it's not. Linux is more secure, more streamlined and faster than MS. It is completely customizable, but even if you know nothing about it, it installs and configures better than MS as well.

Not elitist. A better product that costs NOTHING. As a matter of fact, I installed VMWare on my Linux box, and emulate the old MS 2000 crap so my kid can still run all the old MS applications.
Normal people wouldn't be caught dead using that crappy OS. Too many people I talk to feel that making the leap to Linux means that they have to become some sort of fanatic or join a cult. The face of Linux as portrayed by the extreme fans like you just isn't wining it much support. It comes across as hokey, uninformed or just raging against the machine (usually Microsoft). You guys need to get a real life!

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Normal people wouldn't be caught dead using that crappy OS. Too many people I talk to feel that making the leap to Linux means that they have to become some sort of fanatic or join a cult. The face of Linux as portrayed by the extreme fans like you just isn't wining it much support. It comes across as hokey, uninformed or just raging against the machine (usually Microsoft). You guys need to get a real life!
I see your words typed, but no meaning is getting through. Would you car to cite some examples or experience? Otherwise you are not making an impression. What was fanatical or extreme about what I wrote? I'm not a computer geek; I've been using this OS for a year or so, and it is really easy.

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I see your words typed, but no meaning is getting through. Would you car to cite some examples or experience? Otherwise you are not making an impression. What was fanatical or extreme about what I wrote? I'm not a computer geek; I've been using this OS for a year or so, and it is really easy.
At the risk of sounding redundant, normal people wouldn't be caught dead using that crappy OS. Too many people I talk to feel that making the leap to Linux means that they have to become some sort of fanatic or join a cult. The face of Linux as portrayed by the extreme fans like you just isn't wining it much support. It comes across as hokey, uninformed or just raging against the machine (usually Microsoft). You guys need to get a real life!

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At the risk of sounding redundant, normal people wouldn't be caught dead using that crappy OS. Too many people I talk to feel that making the leap to Linux means that they have to become some sort of fanatic or join a cult. The face of Linux as portrayed by the extreme fans like you just isn't wining it much support. It comes across as hokey, uninformed or just raging against the machine (usually Microsoft). You guys need to get a real life!
You are being redundant, and rather perjorative too. GIVE AN EXAMPLE YOU FREAK!. Just because you repeat yourself does not make it true(r), despite the lead you take from the CIC.

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You are being redundant, and rather perjorative too. GIVE AN EXAMPLE YOU FREAK!. Just because you repeat yourself does not make it true(r), despite the lead you take from the CIC.
"...perjorative"? CIC?... What are you on...?

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"...perjorative"? CIC?... What are you on...?
You are in MS's thrall, not to mention the CiC's. You have lost the power of independent thought (assuming you had it).

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Normal people wouldn't be caught dead using that crappy OS. Too many people I talk to feel that making the leap to Linux means that they have to become some sort of fanatic or join a cult. The face of Linux as portrayed by the extreme fans like you just isn't wining it much support. It comes across as hokey, uninformed or just raging against the machine (usually Microsoft). You guys need to get a real life!
As a professional in this direct field, I can say unequivocally that your assessment is ignorant. Anybody who depends exclusively on Windows for mission critical applications and services should be shot on sight. The fact is, organizations filled with people far smarted than you are rapidly embracing the virtualization capabilities of modern hardware to host both Linux and Windows on a single server. Furthermore, Windows is being relegated to a point solution, allowing Linux to service the workhorse, commodity data center functions like web serving, databse services, etc.

I'll agree that there isn't a viable enterprise Linux desktop yet (I've test-driven Novell's SLED 10, and I'm a Novell customer - it's not ready).

For what it's worth, I'm about to procure a MacBook Pro for myself as a proof-of-concept. If I can integrate it with our Novell infrastructure and develop a management solution for them, our company will switch. Anything that requires Windows can be hosted centrally and presented via Citrix ICA or MS RDP pretty convincingly. Any software company not developing toward the web exclusively had better begin developing toward OS X if they don't want to get left behind. Vista represents the first shot in the revolution. Up next, we gotta start over from scratch on this whole internet thing.
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