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The words he spoke reflected his convictions, no matter who wrote them all.
Meaning he was a good actor, that is all Ed.
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Smile holy shit i forgot all about him

KENNEDY, jfk if it wasnt for him im shure we would be living in a fallout shelter. and there wouldnt be any good cuban cigars around for us canadians to smoke
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Jury's still out.
James Monroe. perhaps? How's that Monroe Doctrine thing working out for us? No Euros in S.A. so we pretty much control the whole continent, right?

He looks kinda familiar though, doesn't he? Best thing about him is that his first name and last name make for a celebrity couple...

There's better pic of the happy twosome but I wanted to be down with the bikers here .


Then there's James (Lotsa Jimmy's for Prez) K. Polk. He had a snappy campaign slogan. "Fifty four forty or fight." Sounds like a Mensa test to me.

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KENNEDY, jfk if it wasnt for him im shure we would be living in a fallout shelter. and there wouldnt be any good cuban cigars around for us canadians to smoke
Interesting. And remind me, please, which President was it that seriously got us ramped up into Vietnam? Does this mean in 40 years people will remember GWB as one of the best? Or was it just that Kennedy was assassinated before too much heat came down on him for Vietnam?

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Oh please hopefully no one will assassinate W. The media, the memorials, and the monuments would all be too much. I really didn't think the USA was going down hill until he got elected twice. Now I must say my smarter friends were correct about the state of this world power. It is turning in on itself in the classic "before the fall" episode.
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Interesting. And remind me, please, which President was it that seriously got us ramped up into Vietnam? Does this mean in 40 years people will remember GWB as one of the best? Or was it just that Kennedy was assassinated before too much heat came down on him for Vietnam?
And I thought the highlight of his presidency was the Bay of Pigs.

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Lincoln was a great man. He said what he needed to in order to get into office (like a good politician will do), then did what was right once he was in. The opposite of what politicians do today.

But, without question, hands down, Washington was the man.
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SO? He had a good speech writer, nothing else?
That's proven to be inaccurate. Reagan wrote most of his own speeches most of his life. Read-up on his private writings for insight into the mind of Reagan -- far more complex and deep than given credit when he was president.

And no, I am not a fan of Reagan's. He cleverly chose a well-meaning fool and a smarmy pol as his two opponents. The elections were both his to lose. His greatest accomplishment was a half-measure cutting government was his goal and his weapons were tax cuts (to limit the income stream) and spending cuts to limit the size of government. Congress bought the tax cuts but not the spending cuts, resulting in a freaking incredible debt acceleration. Thanks, Reagan. His second greatest accomplishment was in having the luck to be in office when the USSR started disintegrating. It took all of the presidents and Congresses from FDR to Bush Sr to get it done, but Reagan gets the credit. Oh well, that's politics.

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PS My favorite president was Washington -- who could have been a king a chose not to; who could have enriched himself at the public's expense but did not; who avoided political parties and factions; agreed to educate and free his slaves and did; who avoided foreign entanglements while we were weak but did not run from foreign relations when it benefited his country. He was true to his word throughout his life and everybody knew it. That is why he was chosen to run the army during the revolution and to run the government after the new constitution was signed. He said he'd leave government and become a private citizen and did exactly as he said. On leaving office he shut-up and kept his own council concerning his successor. He was an ideal for manhood and a model for politics.

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Meaning he was a good actor, that is all Ed.
Uhhh, he really kinda sucked at that . . . and when I said "his convictions," that meant that the words he spoke, whoever wrote the speech, were what he believed should be.

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