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hey, get that serious shit outta here! We're not gonna put up with that in this thread!

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hey, get that serious shit outta here! We're not gonna put up with that in this thread!

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Right. No one should be aware there are crimes being covered up. Move along.

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I find it funny that the people who were interogated by the Grand Jury remember more now than they did then when it was fresher in their mind and that no one is stating how the many "witnesses" testimony has changed from the original findings, even contradicting themselves.........is there anyone we can believe in this trial, the defendants or the prosecution and their team of witnesses??

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I find it funny that the people who were interogated by the Grand Jury remember more now than they did then when it was fresher in their mind and that no one is stating how the many "witnesses" testimony has changed from the original findings, even contradicting themselves.........is there anyone we can believe in this trial, the defendants or the prosecution and their team of witnesses??
Can you cite any examples? Forgive me if I judge you to not be the type to review court transcipts to be able to base that claim on any sort of factual basis. Let the actual jury sort that out.

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George Bush: The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa......
The British government, NOT the CIA.

To my knowledge, the British government has stood by it's analysis.

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The British government, NOT the CIA.

To my knowledge, the British government has stood by it's analysis.

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Right. Based on the cheesy Italian forgery that Joe Wilson debunked. And that the CIA removed from the SOTU, but Cheney re-inserted.

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Now there is the real meat of this trial, as far as I'm concerned.

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Right. Based on the cheesy Italian forgery that Joe Wilson debunked. And that the CIA removed from the SOTU, but Cheney re-inserted.
... and the administration contends that nobody ever saw Joe's report. So that goes nowhere.

Plus, several peopel have done some gumshoe work that indicates Joe wasn't especially thorough since Iraqi agents involved with the nuke program were indeed in Niger in the time-frame reported by the Brits (from bureaucratic sources within Niger).

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The Senate's report on intelligence failures would appear to confirm that Valerie Plame did recommend her husband Joseph Wilson for the mission to Niger. In a memo written to a deputy chief in the CIA's Directorate of Operations, she asserted that Wilson had "good relations with both the Prime Minister and the former Minister of Mines [of Niger], not to mention lots of French contacts." This makes a poor fit with Wilson's claim, in a recent book, that "Valerie had nothing to do with the matter. She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip." (It incidentally seems that she was able to recommend him for the trip because of the contacts he'd made on an earlier trip, for which she had also proposed him.)

Wilson's earlier claim to the Washington Post that, in the CIA reports and documents on the Niger case, "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong," was also false, according to the Senate report. The relevant papers were not in CIA hands until eight months after he made his trip. Wilson now lamely says he may have "misspoken" on this. (See Susan Schmidt's article in the July 10 Washington Post.)

Now turn to the front page of the June 28 Financial Times for a report from the paper's national security correspondent, Mark Huband. He describes a strong consensus among European intelligence services that between 1999 and 2001 Niger was engaged in illicit negotiations over the export of its "yellow cake" uranium ore with North Korea, Libya, Iraq, Iran, and China. The British intelligence report on this matter, once cited by President Bush, has never been disowned or withdrawn by its authors. The bogus document produced by an Italian con man in October 2002, which has caused such embarrassment, was therefore more like a forgery than a fake: It was a fabricated version of a true bill.

Whoops—Iraq was trying to buy uranium in Niger. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine
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... and the administration contends that nobody ever saw Joe's report. So that goes nowhere.
Nowhere? We now have sworn testimony in a court of law that refutes that claim. I suppose a Richard Armitage perjury trial is on the horizon, eh?

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Can you cite any examples? Forgive me if I judge you to not be the type to review court transcipts to be able to base that claim on any sort of factual basis. Let the actual jury sort that out.
Forgive me if I ever gave you any credence to being intelligent......


From the Washington Post among many others :

"The FBI summary said that Russert had not completely ruled out the possibility that he had talked about the Wilsons with Libby. "Those aren't my words," Russert insisted"

From FoxNews among others:

".....They introduced evidence of memory flaws on the part of Miller and Russert, and questioned whether Russert had it in for Libby because the case got Russert subpoenaed to discuss confidential sources. One defense witness, Washington Post reporter Walter Pincus, testified Fleischer leaked Plame's job to him, directly contradicting Fleischer's denial of that under oath. An FBI agent recalled that Russert wasn't able to completely rule out that he and Libby discussed Plame. "

Too I was listening to Fred Thompson on the radio this morning and listed several different incidents however I was unable to record my am radio in the shower and produce transcripts of the interview.

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